<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>Hi Pete;<br><br>So far, we have used WebBeans in everywhere including documentation, blogs, presentation etc.<br><br>It's great to stick with WebBeans;<br><br>PS : Altough I registered with the webbeans-dev list, I am not able to send message here. I would like to post some important messages related with the specification that we have encountered while implementing the specification. Is there any way other?<br><br>Thanks a lot;<br><br>Gurkan Erdogdu<br>OpenWebBeans, http://incubator.apache.org/openwebbeans/<br>gurkanerdogdu@yahoo.com<br></div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Pete Muir
<pmuir@redhat.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 3, 2008 4:36:49 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Fwd: [webbeans-dev] Terminology<br></font><br>
<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="3"><b>From: </b></font><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">Michael Rotatori <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net">rotatori@sbcglobal.net</a>></font></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;
font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="3"><b>Date: </b></font><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">3 December 2008 14:08:19 GMT</font></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" color="#000000" face="Helvetica" size="3"><b>To: </b></font><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3">Pete Muir <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com" target="_blank"
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font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" face="Helvetica" size="3"><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:rotatori@sbcglobal.net">rotatori@sbcglobal.net</a></font></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div> </div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">I think it should be kept as Web Bean. LIke you said, it sounds like a new model. It needs to be separate from an ejb bean name. <br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 12/3/08, Pete Muir <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Pete Muir <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [webbeans-dev] Terminology<br>To: "Gavin King" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gavin@hibernate.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:gavin@hibernate.org">gavin@hibernate.org</a>><br>Cc: "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>>, "Java Community Process JSR #299 Expert List" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:JSR-299-EG@jcp.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:JSR-299-EG@jcp.org">JSR-299-EG@jcp.org</a>>,
"Scott Ferguson" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ferg@caucho.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ferg@caucho.com">ferg@caucho.com</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 6:40 AM<br><br><pre>On 24 Nov 2008, at 13:06, Gavin King wrote:<br><br>> I've had a few discussions with a certain EE vendor who is concerned<br>> that the use of the "Bean" terminology sends<br> the message that<br>Web<br>> Beans is a separate component model that competes with EJB. I don't<br>> necessarily agree, but I can see why some people might get that<br>> impression. Whatever: on this issue I think we should do whatever is<br>> necessary to make 299 palatable to all the vendors in the space.<br>><br>> So we should search for alternative terminology. Here's my suggestion:<br>><br>> Web Bean -> injectable type<br>> simple Web Bean -> injectable java class<br>> enterprise Web Bean -> session bean<br>> Web Bean instance
-> injectable instance / instance of an injectable <br>> type<br><br>This seems quite fragmented to me, I guess I would go for something <br>like:<br><br>Web Bean -> injectable bean<br>Simple Web Bean -> injectable JavaBean<br>Enterprise Web Bean -> session bean<br>Web Bean instance -> injectable bean instance or just bean instance<br><br>This means we loose the<br> proper noun (Web Bean) which I think is what <br>makes it sounds more like a new model, but to me seems more consistent <br>with Java terminology.<br><br>><br>><br>> WDYT? Does anyone have a better suggestion? Does anyone *not* want to<br>> make this change?<br>><br>> -- <br>> Gavin King<br>> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gavin.king@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gavin.king@gmail.com">gavin.king@gmail.com</a><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
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