<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Gavin King <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gavin.king@gmail.com">gavin.king@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Heh, Roberto was supposed to write it over the weekend. Not sure if he did.<br>
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It's being produced by the EE group.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Does that have ramifications for JCDI in non-EE environments, or is MB spec environment-agnostic? <br><br>-Clint<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Clint Popetz <<a href="mailto:cpopetz@gmail.com">cpopetz@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk">pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Mark Struberg <<a href="mailto:struberg@yahoo.de">struberg@yahoo.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > short question:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> * removing interceptor language from spec<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hmm without interceptors, how should we handle @Transactional and stuff?<br>
>> > Having interceptors in the standard is pretty convenient.<br>
>><br>
>> This got moved to the managed bean specification which 299 depends on.<br>
><br>
> What exactly is the "Managed Beans specification?" It's referenced in two<br>
> places in the spec. Is it another JSR? Where do we get a copy? The only<br>
> specified "Managed Bean" I know of is in JSF...I presume that's not what's<br>
> referenced here.<br>
><br>
> -Clint<br>
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>><br>
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>> ><br>
>> > LieGrue,<br>
>> > strub<br>
>> ><br>
>> > --- Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk">pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk</a>> schrieb am Do, 21.5.2009:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Von: Pete Muir <<a href="mailto:pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk">pmuir@bleepbleep.org.uk</a>><br>
>> >> Betreff: [webbeans-dev] Towards CR1<br>
>> >> An: <a href="mailto:webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org">webbeans-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
>> >> CC: <a href="mailto:ee6jboss@sun.com">ee6jboss@sun.com</a>, <a href="mailto:roger.kitain@sun.com">roger.kitain@sun.com</a><br>
>> >> Datum: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2009, 19:36<br>
>> >> All,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As you've seen, Gavin is approaching publishing the PFD of<br>
>> >> 299; before the final draft can be submitted, we need to<br>
>> >> complete both the RI and TCK. We're under quite a tight<br>
>> >> schedule - we have around 6 weeks.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 1) Shane will update the TCK audit (which maps the spec to<br>
>> >> the tests) to the current draft. Hopefully we will start to<br>
>> >> see this coming through early next week. Once this is done,<br>
>> >> we'll have a better idea of how much work there is to do.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 2) David will take the lead on updating tests to the new<br>
>> >> TCK, with Shane working to help him. The order in which the<br>
>> >> tests are done should be same as for the RI<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 3) We'll do the major work on the RI in this priority<br>
>> >> order:<br>
>> >> - New SPI<br>
>> >> - New bootstrap<br>
>> >> - decorators<br>
>> >> - New resource handling stuff<br>
>> >> - minor fixes and changes as a result of<br>
>> >> the new spec language<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> If you want to take on any of the above, please shout now!<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> We still need clarification from Gavin/EG on:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> * removing interceptor language from spec<br>
>> >> * exactly how this inter-relates with the managed bean<br>
>> >> spec<br>
>> >> * exactly how we proceed when the RI supports a particular<br>
>> >> function which requires container integration, and no one<br>
>> >> container supports all integration points.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I don't plan any interim releases between now and CR1, as<br>
>> >> releases take time, and we are under a tight schedule. These<br>
>> >> changes don't generally impact the core functionality<br>
>> >> (except around bootstrap), so I am confident that we don't<br>
>> >> need another beta.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I do plan a reasonably long series of CRs to ensure that<br>
>> >> the codebase is stable, I don't have a firm date for the<br>
>> >> release yet. Once we enter the CR series, the 299 API and<br>
>> >> the Web Beans API/SPI cannot change.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Thanks for all your hard work so far - getting to CR1 is a<br>
>> >> major milestone!<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Pete<br>
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