<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On 28 May 2009, at 16:43, Dan Allen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Pete Muir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style=""><br><div><div class="im"><div>On 28 May 2009, at 16:04, Dan Allen wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Pete Muir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pmuir@redhat.com" target="_blank">pmuir@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Yeah, this is used a lot in the TCK, and maybe a bit in addons which enable injection in types WB doesn't know about (?), but I don't think users will hit it.</blockquote> <div><br>Correct, users really should hit this. It's used heavily in tests, for instance in AbstractWebBeans tests. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Hmm, yes you might well want to use this in a standalone, unit test, environment as an entry point.</div> </div></div></blockquote><div><br>It would be great if we can add a convenience method to AbstractWebBeansTest. That would pretty much clear up any annoyances.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I think David has already done (or was planning to do) this for this and TCK.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style=""><div><div></div><div class="im"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>It is also used when you are entering from outside the WB environment. You get a handle to manager and lookup the type that gives you entry. For instance, you might look up the Identity component and then invoke some method on it which may trigger a chain of WB injections once "inside".</div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Yes, this is addon frameworks, not end users.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Yep, agreed. I've found that injection is sufficient for all but those "entry point" cases.<br> <br>-Dan<br></div></div><br>-- <br>Dan Allen<br>Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action<br><br><a href="http://mojavelinux.com">http://mojavelinux.com</a><br><a href="http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction">http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction</a><br> <a href="http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan">http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan</a><br><br>NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily<br>basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away<br> from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week,<br>it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was<br>caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if<br> you feel that it did not reach my attention.<br></blockquote></div><br></body></html>