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                                                    <td class="text-paragraph-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 10px 0"> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0; margin-top: 0"><a href="https://issues.jboss.org/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=mkouba" class="user-hover" rel="mkouba" style="color: #3b73af; text-decoration: none">Martin Kouba</a> Let's get back to your sample. I don't quite get it.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">You said one might be able to add another Bean implementing Baz and that would work? I cannot see how this should work, please help me to understand what you meant.</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"></p> 
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                                                        </div> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0"></p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">As far as I understand you would then get an AmbiguousResolutionException. The bean resolving algorithm doesn't care whether a Bean is proxyable or not. So you would end up with Bean&lt;Foo&gt; and Bean&lt;OtherFoo&gt; for the InjectionPoint @Inject Baz baz; <br> Or does Weld behave different in that case?</p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Regarding my reference to Instance&lt;T&gt; and Provider&lt;T&gt;:<br> Neither the atinject nor the CDI specification define that those methods return a 'Contextual Reference'.<br> The CDI spec says in the Instance section:</p> {qoute}<br> The Instance interface provides a method for obtaining instances of beans..{qoute} <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Thus my question what Weld does. According to your interpretation a CDI container must not blow up with an UnproxyableResolutionExceptionthen because it's not specified. </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">Again: I strongly believe that both Weld and OWB operate well within the intention and wording of the spec. </p> <p style="margin: 10px 0 0 0">What about using an Injected Arquillian deployer and check whether the UnproxyableResolutionException <b>either</b> gets thrown during bootstrap <em>or</em> during the actual use of this bean?</p> </td> 
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