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                                                    <td class="text-paragraph-pattern-container mobile-resize-text " style="padding: 0px; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0 0 10px 0; padding-top: 10px"> <span class="diffcontext">bq. I looked at the test again and afaict it was effectively disabled for 1.1 as it belonged to an unknown (and thus not enabled) testng Group.<br>Not true. Test groups are only used to exclude tests</span> <span class="diffaddedchars" style="background-color:#ddfade;"> - most tests do not specify the group</span> <span class="diffcontext">. The suite xml includes all tests by default. See for example {{TestGroups}} javadoc or RI TCK runner.<br><br>bq. Both Weld and OWB behave correctly in that regard, right?<br>Yes.<br><br>bq. 6.5.4 covers that any call to BeanManager#getReference...<br>I'm not going to repeat myself again. See [my comment|https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDITCK-584?focusedCommentId=13414386&amp;page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13414386] above.<br><br>bq. And probably even more. Not sure what Weld does for them.<br>AFAIK Weld does not validate these cases during bootstrap.<br><br>bq. Do you see anything where one of the containers contradict the spec from a user perspective?<br>A user might in theory rely on that the example above works on all containers.</span> </td> 
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