<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Cheng Fang <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cfang@redhat.com" target="_blank">cfang@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">David,<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing your comments and observations. More inline...<br>
<div class="im">On 7/24/13 12:09 PM, David M. Lloyd wrote:<br>
> On initial review of JBeret we have noticed a number of issues that<br>
> need to be addressed. The culmination amounts to a series of<br>
> questions and observations here:<br>
><br>
> #1) Why did we not choose to just use the RI? In other words, what<br>
> benefit do we get from JBeret that is not also in the RI? In other,<br>
> other words, why should we *use* this code instead of the RI at this<br>
> point in time?<br>
</div>Batch RI (<a href="http://java.net/projects/jbatch" target="_blank">http://java.net/projects/jbatch</a> from IBM) was created solely<br>
for the purpose of a reference implementation, and is a subset of IBM's<br>
batch offering. The RI code base is refreshed periodically by IBM<br>
contributors and it doesn't seem to open to community contribution. I<br>
haven't done a deep technical comparison between the 2 yet, but I guess<br>
there are areas that one is better than the other and vise versa.<br>
Looking a bit longer term, batch has been an area Java EE and JBoss<br>
haven't paid much attention to, and I believe is an area that can offer<br>
future growth potential. Having our own impl would give us more<br>
flexibility when it comes to integration with the rest of the stack,<br>
design choices, and community building. I'm also adding Kev and Pete<br>
for their perspectives.<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> #2) Why does JBeret duplicate facilities already present in the<br>
> WildFly code base and deployer chain - e.g. annotation indexing,<br>
> reflection indexing, thread management, parsing facilities, etc.?<br>
</div>Batch spec require an impl to be run in either Java EE or Java SE<br>
environment. So inevitably certain services have to reside in JBeret<br>
itself to satisfy the SE runtime. Since we started the impl as a<br>
standalone first, there may be certain aspects that do not fit nicely in<br>
WildFly. It is in the plan to better align with the appserver by<br>
leveraging existing services when running inside WildFly. For example,<br>
use the concurrency utils in EE.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Where does the spec say this? From a Wildfly point of view we should only need the Java EE implementation, it is only if you want to promote JBeret as a standalone JSR-352 implementation that this will be an issue.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Either way, in order to make this work properly with wildfly it needs some kind of bootstrap SPI. For the Java SE impl just just provide another jar that implements the SPI but handles scanning and parsing etc in a standalone manner. A really good example of this is Weld, which provides a SPI that Weld-SE implements for Java SE support. If you design this SPI correctly you should no longer need 1 maven artifact per test, it should be possible to bootstrap the JBeret implementation with different data each time, run the test, and then shut it down.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">
><br>
> #3) Specific to algorithmic complexity - it appears that jobs are<br>
> keyed by ID, yet accessed using a sequential search [1] - this does<br>
> not scale well to large numbers of jobs. Is there no better approach?<br>
</div>The expectation is there is large amount of data, but the number of jobs<br>
are not that large. Say we run a reporting job every day, it is still<br>
one single job with many JobInstance and JobExecution. So I think the<br>
sequential access is acceptable. I guess another reason I didn't want<br>
to maintain a mapping is I really don't want to duplicate the job id as<br>
the key.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure what you mean by " I really don't want to duplicate the job id as</div>the key".<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> #4) JAXB seems to be being used to parse XML, which is a departure<br>
> from all of our other services which expect parsing to be done during<br>
> deployment processing in a more efficient manner. Is there any better<br>
> way we can integrate this, preferably not using JAXB?<br>
</div>It works well so far in standalone distro, but I'm open to alternative<br>
mechanism in either standalone or EE.<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> #5) There are a number of resources present that seem inappropriate<br>
> for the production JAR [2] [3]. Is this intentional?<br>
</div>These are work in progress. sql files are for implementing a jdbc job<br>
repository. Why are they inappropriate?<br>
<div class="im">><br>
> #6) This code base makes extensive use of static state, including<br>
> static fields that seem not to be adequately protected for<br>
> thread-safety, and at least one static thread pool [4]. This needs to<br>
> be fixed, as these kinds of things make embedding difficult or<br>
> impossible.<br>
<br>
</div>In EE environment, thread pool will switch to the managed service<br>
provided by WildFly, preferably the new concurrency utils. Can you list<br>
other places you've noticed that make bad use of static state?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>org.jberet.repository.InMemoryRepository.Holder#instance looks like another problematic one, as it means that there is only ever one in memory repository, so jobs will be shared across all deployments. Also org.jberet.util.BatchUtil#executorService which does not look like it is used.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>Stuart</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Appreciate your feedback.<br>
<span class=""><font color="#888888"><br>
Cheng<br>
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> [1]<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/java/org/jberet/repository/AbstractRepository.java#L50" target="_blank">https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/java/org/jberet/repository/AbstractRepository.java#L50</a><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/tree/master/jberet-core/src/main/resources/sql" target="_blank">https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/tree/master/jberet-core/src/main/resources/sql</a><br>
> [3]<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/resources/jobXML.xjb" target="_blank">https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/resources/jobXML.xjb</a><br>
> [4]<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/java/org/jberet/util/ConcurrencyService.java#L22" target="_blank">https://github.com/jberet/jsr352/blob/master/jberet-core/src/main/java/org/jberet/util/ConcurrencyService.java#L22</a><br>
><br>
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