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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The thing needs distribution tooling to
setup different configurations.<br>
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As for support, we'll support combinations that are actual
products.<br>
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Carlo<br>
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On 02/24/2014 03:10 AM, Stuart Douglas wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">No, because that means we essentially have to
support and test every possible combination that someone might
select.
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Misty Stanley-Jones <span
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I know you guys aren’t there yet, but can we think about
wrapping a GUI around this, so that the developer only needs
to tick the boxes for what he does/doesn’t want, with
dependencies sorted out automatically? Maybe some default
profiles that select a group of things, but the ability to
go in and add or remove individual subsystems as needed?
Maybe this could be part of the installer but could
optionally be run post-install as well.<br>
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On Feb 22, 2014, at 2:01 AM, Brian Stansberry <<a
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wrote:<br>
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> When I said "Web" I meant the thing described on
that wiki page Tomaz<br>
> linked:<br>
><br>
> "Web<br>
><br>
> Undertow subsystem, and all related dependencies,
including a small<br>
> subset of EE and JNDI. This is basically just a
Servlet container, and<br>
> will provide a platform for people that want to
create web based<br>
> appliances or applications, and don't need all the
additional<br>
> functionality that Wildfly provides. We should end
up with something as<br>
> lightweight as Tomcat or Jetty, but with all our
advanced management<br>
> functionality."<br>
><br>
> On 2/21/14, 9:40 AM, Bill Burke wrote:<br>
>> Its also "Web" minus some stuff. For my
project I want just Servlet,<br>
>> JAX-RS, JPA, and datasources. Its very very
hard to figure out how to<br>
>> remove a subsystem and all its associated
modules.<br>
>><br>
>> BTW, I think my maven artifact thing got into
JBoss Modules. So it<br>
>> would be possible to load jars on demand, or at
least use it as a way to<br>
>> figure out which modules aren't being used ;).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 2/21/2014 10:22 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:<br>
>>> This will move things in the right
direction, but not all the way there<br>
>>> yet. Note the set of capabilities Bill
mention: web, CDI, JAX-RS, JPA.<br>
>>> That sounds like our "Web" variant, plus
some stuff. It's the easy "plus<br>
>>> some stuff" part that needs sorting at some
point.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2/21/14, 9:08 AM, Tomaž Cerar wrote:<br>
>>>> Bill,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> that is exactly idea we have in mind of
9.<br>
>>>> We already started with producing
WildFly core distribution in that is<br>
>>>> WildFly with no subsystems, upon which
you can build you own wildfly.<br>
>>>> It is only 15mb and contains whole mgmt
capabilites (CLI, standalone,<br>
>>>> domain,...) you can grab it at:<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://download.jboss.org/wildfly/8.0.0.Final/core/wildfly-core-8.0.0.Final.zip"
target="_blank">http://download.jboss.org/wildfly/8.0.0.Final/core/wildfly-core-8.0.0.Final.zip</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> For 9 we have plans to move things bit
further and have decided that we<br>
>>>> will also do split codebase for core,
ee, web, .. and other distributions.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Current idea on code split up is here<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.jboss.org/wiki/SplittingUpTheWildflyCodeBase"
target="_blank">https://community.jboss.org/wiki/SplittingUpTheWildflyCodeBase</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> tomaz<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Bill
Burke <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bburke@redhat.com">bburke@redhat.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Resteasy list I have a few
people "rolling their own app server"<br>
>>>> using Netty, Weld, Resteasy and
JPA. I asked one of them "I don't<br>
>>>> understand why you are rolling
your own app server" response:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> "It's actually a lot more
lightweight. The minimum I can run the<br>
>>>> equivalent on AS7 on is ~ 180 mb
in binaries, but throwing this<br>
>>>> together is about 32 mb (and
compresses further when its packaged).<br>
>>>> I'm able to start the JVM on the
bare minimum (~100mb on my linux VM)<br>
>>>> but AS7 with all I need is about
756mb. When rolling out in the<br>
>>>> cloud, where all of my REST APIs
are stateless, running with this<br>
>>>> configuration helps us get a lot
more per node."<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I'm not complaining :), just
something to think about. It might be<br>
>>>> really valuable to focus a bit in
Wildfly 9 to make it easier to create<br>
>>>> custom profiles or even different
packaging options for the app server<br>
>>>> instead of the exploded style we
currently have.<br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Bill Burke<br>
>>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat<br>
>>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bill.burkecentral.com" target="_blank">http://bill.burkecentral.com</a><br>
>>>>
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