<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/25/2014 2:41 PM, John Doyle wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:756546233.9206760.1393357270789.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com"
      type="cite">
      <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;
        font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><br>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <hr id="zwchr">
        <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
#1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/24/2014 3:55 PM, John Doyle
            wrote:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote
            cite="mid:1257427962.8543378.1393275319129.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com">
            <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times,
              serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><br>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <hr id="zwchr">
              <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
#1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm hoping that it won't be
                  long before the web console is a separate download
                  that merely connects to WildFly/EAP.  At that point we
                  would not ship web console with the server and this
                  won't really matter any more.</div>
              </blockquote>
              <div>That might be fine for WildFly, but additional
                downloads is an anti-requirement for EAP.</div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          The user doesn't necessarily know the difference as long as he
          is connected to the internet.  Whether the console app is
          first downloaded from the EAP server or from a Red Hat server
          shouldn't matter.</blockquote>
        <div>We have users that cannot connect to the internet for
          security reasons.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    Then they can't download the server either.  Problem solved. :-)<br>
    <br>
    But seriously, that's a simple matter to address.  I'm just pointing
    out that it doesn't matter if the browser downloads the console from
    an EAP/WildFly server or from somewhere else.  It's all the same to
    the user.<br>
    <br>
    There are great advantages to moving the console out of the distro. 
    Perhaps Herald or Heiko will explain when they are ready.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:756546233.9206760.1393357270789.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com"
      type="cite">
      <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif;
        font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
        <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
#1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><br>
          <br>
          <blockquote
            cite="mid:1257427962.8543378.1393275319129.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com">
            <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times,
              serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
              <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid
#1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
                  <br>
                  I assume that if we do trim the console, it will be
                  for WildFly only?  That's probably a good thing but we
                  would need to explain why the EAP download is so much
                  larger.<br>
                  <br>
                  Also note that localization is not just for logging
                  messages and exceptions.  Some DMR operations are
                  localized too and presumably the result does show up
                  in the web console UI.<br>
                  <br>
                  Stan<br>
                  <br>
                  On 2/24/2014 8:59 AM, Tomaž Cerar wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote
cite="mid:CAMquZP4YcxTQptVEXNbN+CifKqGz2pYRwA3vwTKT29auLBJhsQ@mail.gmail.com">
                  <div dir="ltr">
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <div>Hey guys,<br>
                                  <br>
                                </div>
                                I was just discussing with Harald could
                                get distro size down by 25+MB if we
                                would trim our console a bit.<br>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                              Currently we compile console with 40
                              permutations, six browsers
                              (ie6,ie8,ie9,gecko1_8,safari) and eight
                              languages
                              (en,de,es,fr,pt_BR,zh_Hans,ja,ko).<br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                            I think we could drop support for ie6 and
                            get rid of extra localization with support
                            only EN.<br>
                          </div>
                          <div>IE6 market share is so low this days that
                            it really does not make sense to support it
                            in upstream anymore.<br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Also we don't ship localization of
                            logging messages/exceptions in WildFy
                            anyway, so why have just one part localized.<br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          This way we would get down to 4 permutations
                          and our console distro would be 6.8Mb instead
                          of current 32,3Mb<br>
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        Also if people want extra localization, they
                        could always just download full console release
                        and replace that with jar we ship.<br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      So what do you guys think?<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      --<br>
                    </div>
                    tomaz<br>
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <pre>_______________________________________________
wildfly-dev mailing list
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev</a></pre>
                </blockquote>
                <br>
                <br>
                _______________________________________________<br>
                wildfly-dev mailing list<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org"
                  target="_blank">wildfly-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev"
                  target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/wildfly-dev</a></blockquote>
              <br>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>