<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 16. May 2017, at 13:32, J Pai <<a href="mailto:jai.forums2013@gmail.com" class="">jai.forums2013@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">What I have experienced is that for end users, they are mostly interested in seeing their (usually large) deployments show noticeable improvements in deployment time, not necessarily from a cold boot of the server, but when the server is already up and they either want to deploy something new or re-deploy their application.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>+1 the deployments increase the time until “ready to perform work”. This is the point we should use as a reference. Anything before (i.e. blank WF without deployments) is just marketing IMO.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Heiko</div><br class=""></body></html>