<div dir="ltr">Hey Tom,<div><br></div><div>Comments inlined.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Sebastian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:37 PM Tom Jenkinson &lt;<a href="mailto:tom.jenkinson@redhat.com">tom.jenkinson@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 April 2018 at 09:31,  <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a></a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Adding +WildFly Dev &lt;wildfly-dev at <a href="http://lists.jboss.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.jboss.org</a>&gt; to the loop</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Thanks for the explanation Rado.<br>
<br>
TL;DR: A while ago Sanne pointed out that we do not set `node-identifier`<br>
in transaction subsystem by default. The default value for the<br>
`node-identifier` attribute it `1`. Not setting this attribute might cause<br>
problems in transaction recovery. Perhaps we could follow Rado&#39;s idea and<br>
set it to node name by default?<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>

<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Indeed - it would cause serious data integrity problems if a non-unique node-identifier is used.</span>

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Some more comments inlined.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Sebastian<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM Radoslav Husar &lt;rhusar at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Sebastian,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Sebastian Laskawiec<br>
&gt; &lt;slaskawi at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Hey Rado, Paul,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I started looking into this issue and it turned out that WF subsystem<br>
&gt; &gt; template doesn&#39;t provide `node-identifier` attribute [1].<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I assume you mean that the default WildFly server profiles do not<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; explicitly define the attribute. Right ? thus the value defaults in</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; the model to &quot;1&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/transactions/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/txn/subsystem/TransactionSubsystemRootResourceDefinition.java#L97" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/transactions/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/txn/subsystem/TransactionSubsystemRootResourceDefinition.java#L97</a><br>
&gt; which sole intention seems to be to log a warning on boot if the value<br>
&gt; is unchanged.<br>
&gt; Why they decided on a constant that will be inherently not unique as<br>
&gt; opposed to defaulting to the node name (which we already require to be<br>
&gt; unique) as clustering node name or undertow instance-id does, is<br>
&gt; unclear to me.<br>
&gt; Some context is on <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-1119" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-1119</a>.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
In OpenShift environment we could set it to `hostname`. This is guaranteed<br>
to be unique in whole OpenShift cluster.<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
We do this too in EAP images.
<br>To Rado&#39;s point, the default is &quot;1&quot; so we can print the warning to alert 
people they are misconfigured - it seems to be working :)<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is the point. From my understanding, if we set it to node name (instead of &quot;1&quot;), we could make it always work correctly. We could even remove the code that emits the warning (since the node name needs to be unique).</div><div><br></div><div>To sum it up - if we decided to proceed this way, there would be no requirement of setting the node-identifier at all.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div> </div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt;</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; &gt; I&#39;m not sure if you guys are the right people to ask, but is it safe to<br>
&gt; &gt; leave it set to default? Or shall I override our Infinispan templates and<br>
&gt; &gt; add this parameter (as I mentioned before, in OpenShift this I wanted to<br>
&gt; set<br>
&gt; &gt; it as Pod name trimmed to the last 23 chars since this is the limit).<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
Putting a response to this in line - I am not certain who originally 
proposed this.
<br>
<br>You must use a globally unique node-identifier. If you are certain the 
last 23 characters guarantee that it would be valid - if there is a 
chance they are not unique it is not valid to trim.
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If that&#39;s not an issue, again, we could use the same limit as we have for node name.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>


<br></div><div> </div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt;</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; It is not safe to leave it set to &quot;1&quot; as that results in inconsistent<br>
&gt; processing of transaction recovery.<br>
&gt; IIUC we already set it to the node name for both EAP and JDG<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-eap70-openshift/added/standalone-openshift.xml#L411" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-eap70-openshift/added/standalone-openshift.xml#L411</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href="https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-jdg7-conffiles/added/clustered-openshift.xml#L282" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-jdg7-conffiles/added/clustered-openshift.xml#L282</a><br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; which in turn defaults to the pod name ? so which profiles are we</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; talking about here?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Granted, we set it by default in CCT Modules. However in Infinispan we just<br>
grab provided transaction subsystem when rendering full configuration from<br>
featurepacks:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/server/integration/feature-pack/src/main/resources/configuration/standalone/subsystems-cloud.xml#L19" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/server/integration/feature-pack/src/main/resources/configuration/standalone/subsystems-cloud.xml#L19</a><br>
<br>
The default configuration XML doesn&#39;t contain the `node-identifier`<br>
attribute. I can add it manually in the cloud.xml but I believe the right<br>
approach is to modify the transaction subsystem.<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; Rado<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; &gt; Seb<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; [1] usually set to node-identifier=&quot;${<a href="http://jboss.node.name" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jboss.node.name</a>}&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; &gt; On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM Sanne Grinovero &lt;sanne at <a href="http://infinispan.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">infinispan.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On 9 April 2018 at 09:26, Sebastian Laskawiec &lt;slaskawi at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>&gt;</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks for looking into it Sanne. Of course, we should add it (it can<br>
&gt; be<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; set<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; to the same name as hostname since those are unique in Kubernetes).<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Created <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-9051" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-9051</a> for it.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks again!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Seb<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks Sebastian!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:53 PM Sanne Grinovero &lt;sanne at <a href="http://infinispan.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">infinispan.org</a>&gt;</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#39;ve started to use the Infinispan Openshift Template and was<br>
&gt; browsing<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; through the errors and warnings this produces.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; In particular I noticed &quot;WFLYTX0013: Node identifier property is set<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; to the default value. Please make sure it is unique.&quot; being produced<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; by the transaction system.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The node id is usually not needed for developer&#39;s convenience and<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; assuming there&#39;s a single node in &quot;dev mode&quot;, yet clearly the<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Infinispan template is meant to work with multiple nodes running so<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; this warning seems concerning.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#39;m not sure what the impact is on the transaction manager so I asked<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; on the Narayana forums; Tom pointed me to some thourough design<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; documents and also suggested the EAP image does set the node<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; identifier:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;  - <a href="https://developer.jboss.org/message/981702#981702" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.jboss.org/message/981702#981702</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; WDYT? we probably want the Infinispan template to set this as well,<br>
&gt; or<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; silence the warning?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Sanne<br>
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