<div dir="ltr">I am not sure - the default should be "1" for the bare metal case so the warning is reliably triggered but the default can be the pod name for OpenShift templates that only allow a single instance of the application server - does that help? <div><br></div><div>The file you looked to want to edit is shared by bare metal and other deployment environments so it would be confusing to set the default to <a href="http://jboss.node.name">jboss.node.name</a> there IMO.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 1 May 2018 at 03:39, Sebastian Laskawiec <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slaskawi@redhat.com" target="_blank">slaskawi@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Fair enough Tom. Thanks for explanation.<div><br></div><div>One more request - would you guys be OK with me adding a node-identifier="${<a href="http://jboss.node.name" target="_blank">jboss.<wbr>node.name</a>}" to the transaction subsystem template [1]? This way we wouldn't need to copy it into Infinispan (since we need to set it).</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/transactions/src/main/resources/subsystem-templates/transactions.xml#L6" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/<wbr>transactions/src/main/<wbr>resources/subsystem-templates/<wbr>transactions.xml#L6</a></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 3:37 PM Tom Jenkinson <<a href="mailto:tom.jenkinson@redhat.com" target="_blank">tom.jenkinson@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 April 2018 at 14:07, Sebastian Laskawiec <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:slaskawi@redhat.com" target="_blank">slaskawi@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey Tom,<div><br></div><div>Comments inlined.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Sebastian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_5802046673480658021m_2261263716859832444h5"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 4:37 PM Tom Jenkinson <<a href="mailto:tom.jenkinson@redhat.com" target="_blank">tom.jenkinson@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 April 2018 at 09:31, <span dir="ltr"><<a></a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Adding +WildFly Dev <wildfly-dev at <a href="http://lists.jboss.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.jboss.org</a>> to the loop</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Thanks for the explanation Rado.<br>
<br>
TL;DR: A while ago Sanne pointed out that we do not set `node-identifier`<br>
in transaction subsystem by default. The default value for the<br>
`node-identifier` attribute it `1`. Not setting this attribute might cause<br>
problems in transaction recovery. Perhaps we could follow Rado's idea and<br>
set it to node name by default?<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Indeed - it would cause serious data integrity problems if a non-unique node-identifier is used.</span>
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Some more comments inlined.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Sebastian<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 7:07 PM Radoslav Husar <rhusar at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Sebastian,<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Sebastian Laskawiec<br>
> <slaskawi at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Hey Rado, Paul,<br>
> ><br>
> > I started looking into this issue and it turned out that WF subsystem<br>
> > template doesn't provide `node-identifier` attribute [1].<br>
><br>
> I assume you mean that the default WildFly server profiles do not<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> explicitly define the attribute. Right ? thus the value defaults in</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> the model to "1"<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://github.com/wildfly/wildfly/blob/master/transactions/src/main/java/org/jboss/as/txn/subsystem/TransactionSubsystemRootResourceDefinition.java#L97" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/wildfly/<wbr>wildfly/blob/master/<wbr>transactions/src/main/java/<wbr>org/jboss/as/txn/subsystem/<wbr>TransactionSubsystemRootResour<wbr>ceDefinition.java#L97</a><br>
> which sole intention seems to be to log a warning on boot if the value<br>
> is unchanged.<br>
> Why they decided on a constant that will be inherently not unique as<br>
> opposed to defaulting to the node name (which we already require to be<br>
> unique) as clustering node name or undertow instance-id does, is<br>
> unclear to me.<br>
> Some context is on <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WFLY-1119" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/<wbr>browse/WFLY-1119</a>.<br>
><br>
<br>
In OpenShift environment we could set it to `hostname`. This is guaranteed<br>
to be unique in whole OpenShift cluster.<br>
<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
We do this too in EAP images.
<br>To Rado's point, the default is "1" so we can print the warning to alert
people they are misconfigured - it seems to be working :)<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>This is the point. From my understanding, if we set it to node name (instead of "1"), we could make it always work correctly. We could even remove the code that emits the warning (since the node name needs to be unique).</div><div><br></div><div>To sum it up - if we decided to proceed this way, there would be no requirement of setting the node-identifier at all.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>For OpenShift you are right there is no requirement for someone to change the node-identifier from the podname and so that is why EAP images do that. </div><div><br></div><div>For bare-metal it is different as there can be two servers on the same machine so they were configured to use the hostname as they node-identifier then if they were also connected to the same resource managers or the same object store they would interfere with each other.</div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div> </div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> > I'm not sure if you guys are the right people to ask, but is it safe to<br>
> > leave it set to default? Or shall I override our Infinispan templates and<br>
> > add this parameter (as I mentioned before, in OpenShift this I wanted to<br>
> set<br>
> > it as Pod name trimmed to the last 23 chars since this is the limit).<br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
Putting a response to this in line - I am not certain who originally
proposed this.
<br>
<br>You must use a globally unique node-identifier. If you are certain the
last 23 characters guarantee that it would be valid - if there is a
chance they are not unique it is not valid to trim.
<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>If that's not an issue, again, we could use the same limit as we have for node name.</div><div><div class="m_5802046673480658021m_2261263716859832444h5"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>
<br></div><div> </div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> It is not safe to leave it set to "1" as that results in inconsistent<br>
> processing of transaction recovery.<br>
> IIUC we already set it to the node name for both EAP and JDG<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-eap70-openshift/added/standalone-openshift.xml#L411" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/jboss-<wbr>openshift/cct_module/blob/<wbr>master/os-eap70-openshift/<wbr>added/standalone-openshift.<wbr>xml#L411</a><br>
><br>
> <a href="https://github.com/jboss-openshift/cct_module/blob/master/os-jdg7-conffiles/added/clustered-openshift.xml#L282" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/jboss-<wbr>openshift/cct_module/blob/<wbr>master/os-jdg7-conffiles/<wbr>added/clustered-openshift.xml#<wbr>L282</a><br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> which in turn defaults to the pod name ? so which profiles are we</blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> talking about here?<br>
><br>
<br>
Granted, we set it by default in CCT Modules. However in Infinispan we just<br>
grab provided transaction subsystem when rendering full configuration from<br>
featurepacks:<br>
<a href="https://github.com/infinispan/infinispan/blob/master/server/integration/feature-pack/src/main/resources/configuration/standalone/subsystems-cloud.xml#L19" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/infinispan/<wbr>infinispan/blob/master/server/<wbr>integration/feature-pack/src/<wbr>main/resources/configuration/<wbr>standalone/subsystems-cloud.<wbr>xml#L19</a><br>
<br>
The default configuration XML doesn't contain the `node-identifier`<br>
attribute. I can add it manually in the cloud.xml but I believe the right<br>
approach is to modify the transaction subsystem.<br>
<br>
<br>
> Rado<br>
><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Seb<br>
> ><br>
> > [1] usually set to node-identifier="${<a href="http://jboss.node.name" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">jboss.node.<wbr>name</a>}"<br>
> ><br>
> ><br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at <a href="http://infinispan.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">infinispan.org</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> On 9 April 2018 at 09:26, Sebastian Laskawiec <slaskawi at <a href="http://redhat.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">redhat.com</a>></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> wrote:<br>
> >> > Thanks for looking into it Sanne. Of course, we should add it (it can<br>
> be<br>
> >> > set<br>
> >> > to the same name as hostname since those are unique in Kubernetes).<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Created <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/ISPN-9051" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/<wbr>browse/ISPN-9051</a> for it.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > Thanks again!<br>
> >> > Seb<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks Sebastian!<br>
> >><br>
> >> ><br></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> >> > On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:53 PM Sanne Grinovero <sanne at <a href="http://infinispan.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">infinispan.org</a>></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
> >> > wrote:<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Hi all,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I've started to use the Infinispan Openshift Template and was<br>
> browsing<br>
> >> >> through the errors and warnings this produces.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> In particular I noticed "WFLYTX0013: Node identifier property is set<br>
> >> >> to the default value. Please make sure it is unique." being produced<br>
> >> >> by the transaction system.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> The node id is usually not needed for developer's convenience and<br>
> >> >> assuming there's a single node in "dev mode", yet clearly the<br>
> >> >> Infinispan template is meant to work with multiple nodes running so<br>
> >> >> this warning seems concerning.<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> I'm not sure what the impact is on the transaction manager so I asked<br>
> >> >> on the Narayana forums; Tom pointed me to some thourough design<br>
> >> >> documents and also suggested the EAP image does set the node<br>
> >> >> identifier:<br>
> >> >> - <a href="https://developer.jboss.org/message/981702#981702" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developer.jboss.org/<wbr>message/981702#981702</a><br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> WDYT? we probably want the Infinispan template to set this as well,<br>
> or<br>
> >> >> silence the warning?<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Thanks,<br>
> >> >> Sanne<br>
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> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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