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Hi Ondra,<br>
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Of course! As I said on IRC, what ever is easiest for you is fine by
me. :-)<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Sande<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/10/2014 11:04 PM, Ondrej Zizka
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Okay, in that case, let's do AsciiDoc, except for the few pages
where I am just storing temp info before converting to a real
page, mostly "Dev:", because that's changing often, shouldn't go
to any official docs, and I edit faster in Markdown. These pages
will have "Draft" at the top. But I'll update the existing pages
in AsciiDoc.<br>
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Will that work fine?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ondra<br>
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Coming into this late....<br>
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I agree with Pete. I think the Wiki is a temporary container for
the documentation. As Pete said, we may embed the docs into the
web site or it may be published to the Customer Portal. Similar
to the other documentation, we may also eventually need more
complex structures like tables and graphs and I'm pretty sure we
will want to publish PDFs. I hate to tie ourselves to something
that can't grow with us. The syntax for AsciiDoc is very similar
and I don't find it any more difficult to work with than
Markdown.<br>
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I do think we need to be consistent with the documentation and
use the same tooling for all the pages. However, Ondra, if you
feel more comfortable and productive working with Markdown,
please continue to use it as you are doing an amazing job
creating documentation! When you think a page is ready, I am
happy to convert it to AsciiDoc for you. :-)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/10/2014 06:12 AM, Pete Muir
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I doubt that the github wiki will be our target output
platform. We’ll likely want to embed them in to the website.
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<div>On 9 Sep 2014, at 23:24, Ondrej Zizka <<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Other issues
might be GitHub's translator. But IDK what's the main
target medium for our docs. Is that GitHub wiki?<br>
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Ondra<br>
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One of Ondra's complaints is the way lists seem to
display an extra paragraph between the items. Take
a look at the home page here: <a
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href="https://github.com/windup/windup/wiki">https://github.com/windup/windup/wiki</a><br>
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Note that the list items are spaced far apart. I
search for a solution, and the only thing I could
find was mention of using <code>[options="compact"],
</code>but it didn't seem to work.<br>
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Ondra, what other issues did you have. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/09/2014 06:39 AM,
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<pre wrap="">The big advantages of asciidoc are:
* more comprehensive markup (e.g. tables, definition lists are supported as standard)
* generation of pdf and epub is part of the standard toolchain
Markdown is great for short docs, but I quickly ran in to the limitations when building more complex documents.
GitHub’s support for asciidoc wasn’t great to start with, but I think the fixed it more recently. Before you abandon it, point me at the problems, I can take a quick look.
I prefer asciidoc links as you just do link:<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://redhat.com/">http://redhat.com</a>[Red Hat’s website]. I find this much easier to remember than the weird []() syntax in markdown.
On 9 Sep 2014, at 01:23, Sande Gilda <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sgilda@redhat.com"><sgilda@redhat.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'll change everything back to Markdown later this week. Ondra, in the
meantime, you can work in Markdown.
On 09/08/2014 08:12 PM, Brad Davis wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I personally leveraged Markdown because it worked. Asciidoc a while ago did not. I noticed when things moved to Asciidoc, the images in the docs broke.
Brad Davis
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To: "Sande Gilda" <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sgilda@redhat.com"><sgilda@redhat.com></a>, "Windup-dev List" <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:windup-dev@lists.jboss.org"><windup-dev@lists.jboss.org></a>
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Subject: Re: [windup-dev] Asciidoc - lists
For the record: I don't strongly prefer either, only that I only touched
few things in AsciiDoc, and:
1) certain constructs are quite less readable -> editable in the
source text (e.g. links)
2) the render results are not satisfactory - things like a bold text
in a lists are not properly implemented on whatever GitHub uses.
Ondra
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<pre wrap="">Hi all,
Ondra asked me about the advantages of AsciiDoc over Markdown. I
really don't know, but I do remember Pete saying AsciiDoc would be
better for the quickstart README files long ago. And I believe Drupal,
the new host for documentation, supports AsciiDoc.
TBH, I don't feel strongly about sticking with AsciiDoc. If no one can
come up with a good reason for sticking with it, I'm fine with going
back to Markdown if it's easier for everyone.
So, AsciiDoc advocates, please speak up now.
Thanks,
Sande
On 09/08/2014 06:29 PM, Sande Gilda wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi Ondra,
You're asking me? ;-)
I'm totally new to asciidoc. I'll research it and see what I can find
out.
Thanks,
Sande
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<pre wrap="">Hi Sande,
is there any way to prevent asciidoc put <p> to each <li>? Makes the
list tall and breaks the whole page layout.
Thanks,
Ondra
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