<html><body><div style="font-family: garamond,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, exactly. &nbsp;We need to come up with rules and reports that can take advantage of the data graph and other features.</div><div><br></div><div>One thought I had that got shot down; but might still be possible would be to use the complex graph to type whole classes or packages by the complexity of migration activities that would required to migrate. &nbsp;We could have a report that grouped packages and classes by the migration work to be done. &nbsp;So, JSP pages would be grouped together and note that knowledge of Tomahawk would also be necessary. &nbsp;Classes extending the same WebSphere base class could be reported together, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>We need some concrete use cases. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><span name="x"></span><br>Robb Greathouse<br>Middleware Business Unit<br>JBoss, a Division of Red Hat<br>cellphone 505-507-4906<span name="x"></span><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">
  
    
  
  
    1) More complex rules querying more complex Java constructs /
    transitive relations etc.<br>
    2) Easier and more powerful rules.<br>
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    Since we first only converted the Windup 1 rules, Windup 2 doesn't
    give much over that.<br>
    I believe it will as the new rules start coming.<br>
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    Ondra<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30.3.2015 16:20, Robb Greathouse
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        <div>We still need to justify the additional 30 minutes to
          clients. &nbsp;At this point it is appears to give the same report
          that Windup .7 gave. &nbsp;What can we add to the report to
          demonstrate value added for those additional minute?<br>
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          Robb Greathouse<br>
          Middleware Business Unit<br>
          JBoss, a Division of Red Hat<br>
          cellphone 505-507-4906<span></span><br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Great! Thank you for confirming this! We
            definitely wanted to get these improvements into this
            release, so thank you for your patience as we sorted out
            some of the issues!
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            <div>~Lincoln</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:48 PM,
              Robb Greathouse <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:robb.greathouse@redhat.com" target="_blank">robb.greathouse@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                    <div>Cudos.</div>
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                    <div>Running against the 300~mb test file and
                      restricting it to look at packages com.clarify it
                      runs in about 40 minutes vs the old time of 20
                      hours plus.&nbsp; Definite performance improvement.</div>
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                        Robb Greathouse<br>
                        Middleware Business Unit<br>
                        JBoss, a Division of Red Hat<br>
                        cellphone <a href="tel:505-507-4906" target="_blank">505-507-4906</a><span></span><br>
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                            am proud to announce the release of Windup
                            2.2.0.Final, which includes the following
                            features/enhanvements/and bugfixes.</span></h2>
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                            <div>Great job team!</div>
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                            <div>~Lincoln</div>
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0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(36,52,70);font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bug</h2>
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0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-510" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-510</a>]
                                - Build fails with BOM missing</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-511" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-511</a>]
                                - Quickstarts tests fail with a NPE</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-516" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-516</a>]
                                - [Performance] Multiple valueStores
                                even if the rule does not use parameters</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-517" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-517</a>]
                                - Application Index page lacks
                                technology list and effort information</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-518" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-518</a>]
                                - XML Handlers do not support nested
                                rules</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-524" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-524</a>]
                                - Fix the cyclic dependency between
                                windup and windup-rulesets</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-542" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-542</a>]
                                - Fix severe regression in AST
                                performance</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-544" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-544</a>]
                                - StackOverflowException when generating
                                Application report</li>
                            </ul>
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0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(36,52,70);font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Enhancement</h2>
                            <ul style="margin:10px 0px
0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-409" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-409</a>]
                                - Allow rules metadata to be specified
                                with annotations - @Rules( phase = ...,
                                ...)</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-470" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-470</a>]
                                - Classes in java.lang package may
                                differ in how they are parsed</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-506" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-506</a>]
                                - Identify Archives Ruleset: Improve
                                memory footprint</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-508" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-508</a>]
                                - WindupRuleProvider should contain a
                                location/origin field (to indicate where
                                it was defined)</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-515" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-515</a>]
                                - Add Severity to Hint</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-520" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-520</a>]
                                - Rule Externalization - Introduce a
                                Rule, RuleProvider and RulesetMetadata
                                API</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-529" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-529</a>]
                                - Performance issue: Query requires
                                iterating over all vertices
                                [(ClassificationModel:classification =
                                ...)]</li>
                            </ul>
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0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(36,52,70);font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Feature
                              Request</h2>
                            <ul style="margin:10px 0px
0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-402" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-402</a>]
                                - Change ruleset category metadata to
                                tag-like system (make it a set of
                                strings)</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-521" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-521</a>]
                                - Rule Externalization - Create XML
                                Handlers for Rule metadata</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-522" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-522</a>]
                                - Rule Externalization - Create
                                user-interface for selecting
                                source/target platforms</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-523" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-523</a>]
                                - Rule Externalization - Allow filtering
                                of RuleProviders by tags (categories)</li>
                            </ul>
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0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(36,52,70);font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Task</h2>
                            <ul style="margin:10px 0px
0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-512" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-512</a>]
                                - Rename Implicit to Dependent</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-513" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-513</a>]
                                - Phase pseudo-RuleProviders to have
                                ~Phase suffix</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-530" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-530</a>]
                                - Rename the module "utils" to
                                "windup-utils"</li>
                            </ul>
                            <h2 style="margin:30px 0px
0px;padding:0px;color:rgb(36,52,70);font-size:20px;font-weight:normal;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Sub-task</h2>
                            <ul style="margin:10px 0px
0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-464" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-464</a>]
                                - Expand all addons with simple layout
                                to use full api/impl/tests structure</li>
                              <li>[<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/WINDUP-465" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">WINDUP-465</a>]
                                - Review all rules, organize into an
                                external repository, and add useful hint
                                information with links to knowledge
                                articles</li>
                            </ul>
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                            <div>Lincoln Baxter, III<br>
                              <a href="http://ocpsoft.org" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
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              <a href="http://ocpsoft.org" target="_blank">http://ocpsoft.org</a><br>
              "Simpler is better."</div>
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