On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Erik Jan de Wit <edewit@redhat.com> wrote:
So when I think IoT, I would think one of the challenges would be that
you have a lot of things. So what would be useful would be a way to
discover these devices on the network maybe?

What type of network? 

I know with TCP/IP there are some utilities for finding things on your local subnet.  There are also things wifi direct does but I am not familiar with them.

What type of protocol do the iBeacon family of devices use over BLE?
  
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Burr Sutter <bsutter@redhat.com> wrote:
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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma@redhat.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Burr Sutter <bsutter@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> We already have ActiveMQ, a message broker that will deal with things like
>> “durable subscriptions”, holding messages until the subscriber wakes up and
>> acknowledges receipt.
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>> There is also Mosca as a Node.js-based MQTT focused message broker.
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>> There will be a wide spectrum of Things - from most distributed edge
>> sensors with energy harvesting (smart dust)  to robust “gateway” servers
>> that look a lot like your typical datacenter server today.   It is currently
>> unclear to me which of the application protocols will “win”.  At this
>> moment, MQTT is a winner (great support from numerous vendors) and I feel
>> that CoAP will be a winner as well.
>> AMQP or DDS may win on the beefier gateways but not so much edge
>> intelligent things.
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> MQTT seems to work pretty OK on Android (last I checked).
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> What type of messaging APIs would be useful on mobile hosts?  I
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> I am not sure…lots of folks here to provide some insights :-)
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> Does an IOT webapp even make sense? (There is probably something to be said
> for ChromeOS apps)
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> If the Thing is beefy enough to run a web browser then I consider it to be a
> mobile use case, less an IoT use case scenario.
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>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew@apache.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> more something like a unified messanger platform, where we have real
>>> messaging hooks/adapters (client/server) for protocols like AMQP, MQTT, XMPP
>>> etc while having support for push notifications as well.
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>> We could probably extend the Push API. I mean it already does half the
>> work for us ;)
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>>> That would be nice to have, at some point
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>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Luke Holmquist <lholmqui@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> like Notifier?
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>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So IoT is getting a lot of attention within the company (or at least
>>>>> within my monkeysphere).  From the demo project I've noticed that a lot of
>>>>> the work is in messaging and message handling.  What do you guys think about
>>>>> exploring this space more?  How does it / can it /should it fit into our
>>>>> roadmap?
>>>>>
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