They are welcome to use it as they see fit, though the only things that
should be there is the push notification stuff, the rest is my problem
:)

On 22 Jan 2016, at 12:51, Anton Hughes wrote:

> Thanks Rob - really appreciate this.
>
> May I recommend that this is published on the aerogear website. This
> kind
> of knowledge is gained through hard knocks. It can save many others
> the
> same pain.
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rob Willett
> <rob.aerogear@robertwillett.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Anton,
>>
>> Its difficult to do some things without a phone, you can certainly
>> develop on Cordova and get a long way on screens designs,
>> controllers,
>> services, posting to and getting stuff from servers but somethings
>> need
>> a hardware device.
>>
>> Off the top of my head things that don’t work properly on
>> iPhone/Android simulators or at all.
>>
>> 1. Background processing. JavaScript timers continue to work in the
>> background but do not on a real phone. Sounds innocuous but its a
>> massive hassle for us.
>> 2. GPS is very limited on the iPhone emulator. You can set simple GPS
>> routes up and thats it. The genymotion has a GPS on off switch to
>> save a
>> position, useful for very, very limited uses.
>> 3. No notifications on the iPhone emulator. Zilch. You can get them
>> on
>> the Genymotion with the link I posted.
>> 4. No In-App purchasing on the iPhone. No access to the sandbox, its
>> a
>> nightmare even on a real phone. No idea on Android as we have up on
>> the
>> iPhone.
>> 5. Some weird effects of different versions of IOS and background
>> processing with geolocation and posting to servers with ATS. We
>> can’t
>> work it out at all, so we use real phones.
>>
>> You can get so far without a phone but at the end of the day you will
>> need one to develop and test. There is no getting away from it. Ups
>> cannot develop and simply deploy and hope it all works. Emulators
>> will
>> work, but not with any success for at least the things I’ve quoted
>> above.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On 22 Jan 2016, at 12:10, Anton Hughes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Rob
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Rob Willett <
>>> rob.aerogear@robertwillett.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unclear as to why deploying to a real device is such a problem, we
>>>> develop on iPhone and Android using Cordova and even though I like
>>>> the
>>>> iPhone, the development and debugging tools on a real Android
>>>> device
>>>> are
>>>> excellent and fast. When we have a real problem, we tend to ignore
>>>> Xcode
>>>> and Safari and the iPhone and debug it on a real Android device. We
>>>> don’t have any real issues, though we always want things to be
>>>> quicker.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Its a problem for me as I dont have a cell phone - seriously.
>>> But, it just sounds odd, to have to deploy and install on a new
>>> piece
>>> of
>>> hardware each time you want to test. My usual workflow would be to
>>> develop
>>> locally, then when things are working, then deploy.
>>>
>>> And, for now, I am just doing a proof of concept - my goal is just
>>> to
>>> prove
>>> that it is possible to send a push notification from UPS to android
>>> using
>>> cordova. I'm surprised at how complicated it is. But I suppose my
>>> confusion
>>> and frustration is simply because I am new to this style of
>>> developing.
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