It's all French, but I suppose the meeting is today not tomorrow?

As mentioned, I can't use IRC in the office, and there's an overlap with JSR 364 (phone call works as long as it's not an international line) so I won't be able to join this week I'm afraid.

If Europe also gets to Daylight Saving, the other call may be later, then I could probably attend both (from home;-)

Werner

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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 13:05:40 +0100
From: Martin Kouba <mkouba@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI SE Google Doc Updated
To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament@gmail.com>,   Jozef Hartinger
        <jharting@redhat.com>,  Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine@sabot-durand.net>
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Dne 17.3.2015 v 10:49 John D. Ament napsal(a):
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:50 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba@redhat.com
> <mailto:mkouba@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>     It's ok to have the same default bean discovery mode in Java SE.
>     However, I think there is no easy way to scan the classpath and "detect"
>     bean archives without beans.xml, i.e. implicit bean archives without the
>     descriptor.
>
>
> You should be able to read java.class.path to determine the possible
> archives.  Then use the URL of the class itself to find which JAR it
> came from.

I'm not sure this will cover all use-cases (Web Start, extension
classes, ...). Moreover, elements of the class are platform-specific. So
it wouldn't be trivial to parse it.

>
>
>     That's the reason why bean archives without beans.xml are not supported
>     in Weld SE.
>
>     If anyone knows how to implement this properly, speak out.
>
>     Martin
>
>     Dne 17.3.2015 v 07:22 Jozef Hartinger napsal(a):
>      >
>      > On 03/16/2015 05:45 PM, Antoine Sabot-Durand wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> Le 16 mars 2015 ? 11:02, Jozef Hartinger <jharting@redhat.com
>     <mailto:jharting@redhat.com>
>      >>> <mailto:jharting@redhat.com <mailto:jharting@redhat.com>>> a
>     ?crit :
>      >>>
>      >>> Btw was there any further discussion about the bean discovery
>     mode in SE
>      >>>
>      >>
>      >> For the time being we decided to have the same discovery mode in SE
>      >> (default to Annotated). If someone has a good reason to change the
>      >> default mode in SE and/or add a new discovery mode, I?d be glad to
>      >> hear about it.
>      >
>     http://lists.jboss.org/__pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/__006334.html
>     <http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/cdi-dev/2015-March/006334.html>
>      >>
>      >>
>      >>> On 03/16/2015 10:45 AM, Jozef Hartinger wrote:
>      >>>> The CDIProvider serves as a kind of SPI for CDI's static
>     methods to
>      >>>> be able to call into the implementation. I don't think reusing it
>      >>>> also as a user-facing code is a good idea. What people
>     suggesting to
>      >>>> reuse CDIProvider had in mind, I think, was to reuse it as the SPI
>      >>>> for talking to the CDI implementation instead. That way, the
>      >>>> initialize() static method of
>     CDIContainer/StartedCDI/__whatever we
>      >>>> call it can use CDIProvider internally to actually start the
>     container.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> In addition, the current proposal does not make it possible to
>      >>>> implement parallel container instances.
>      >>>>
>      >>>> Jozef
>      >>>>
>      >>>> On 03/15/2015 05:03 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
>      >>>>> HI all,
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> Apologies for being a week late on getting this doc together.  I
>      >>>>> had some personal issues pop up after my leg came out of its cast
>      >>>>> that consumed most of my week last week.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> Anywho, I've updated the doc with a summary of what was discussed
>      >>>>> with CDI SE bootstrap support.  You can find that here:
>      >>>>>
>     https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1LgsGT-__AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-__wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing
>     <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LgsGT-AAlrF72Z5pW4xNQiVjUHGUME46ZmB-wwF35Yw/edit?usp=sharing>
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> There are two minor changes that I made from where we last
>      >>>>> discussed, as when I was putting together code I found some gaps
>      >>>>> and figured it best to fix them here than later.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> 1. CDIProvider does not implement AutoCloseable.  Since CDI class
>      >>>>> maintains a reference to the provider, implementing AutoCloseable
>      >>>>> was not adding anything.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> 2. I added a method boolean isInitialized() so that the
>     caller can
>      >>>>> know if they need to start the container (or if it's already
>     running).
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> Locally, I've also modified the CDI.current() method to use
>      >>>>> getCDIProvider() instead of internally finding the provider since
>      >>>>> we now have a getter.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> One thing I'd like to get feedback on is if calling
>      >>>>> initialize/shutdown in a container should throw
>      >>>>> IllegalStateException, or probably better to throw
>      >>>>> UnsupportedOperationException when called in EE containers.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>> John
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>
>      >>>>>
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Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 15:06:12 +0000
From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine@sabot-durand.net>
Subject: [cdi-dev] Invitation: CDI weekly meeting - Toutes les
        semaines entre 18:00 et 19:00 le Mercredi (ASD Perso)
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