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1. Re: [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of classes
with non-private final methods (Thomas Andraschko)
2. Re: [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of classes
with non-private final methods (Jens Schumann)
3. Re: [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of classes
with non-private final methods (Emily Jiang)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 18:08:53 +0100
From: Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of
classes with non-private final methods
To: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
Cc: cdi-dev <cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>
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+1
not sure if the PR is the best way but as mark already said, it would solve
a problem in a portable way which exists in some real world applications
2016-02-09 18:00 GMT+01:00 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>:
> +1
>
> This is a real world problem and it would imo be a pitty to not have it in
> the spec in a portable way.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> > Am 09.02.2016 um 17:36 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand <
> antoine@sabot-durand.net>:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > There have been a lot of discussion around CDI-527 in the last weeks:
> > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
> >
> > Mark proposed a PR:
> > https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/271
> >
> > But we don't agree on adding this feature to the spec.
> > This vote is to decide if we should add this feature at the spec level
> now, or not.
> > Should we vote this feature down, that won't mean it will be completely
> dropped: it could be implemented as non portable feature in both Spec or
> even be included as experimental feature in the spec (in annexes) as
> describe in the PR comments
> > Vote starts now, only vote from EG members are binding (but you can give
> your opinion if not part of the EG) and will last 72 hours.
> >
> > You vote with the following values:
> > +1 : I'm favorable for adding this feature in the spec
> > -1 : I'm against adding this feature in the spec
> > 0 : I don't care
> >
> > Thank you for your attention and your vote.
> >
> > Antoine Sabot-Durand
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:13:50 +0000
From: Jens Schumann <jens.schumann@openknowledge.de>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of
classes with non-private final methods
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+1
(even though I can live with a portable alternative approach to the current PR)
So far I did not express my support for this PR even though I promised to do so. Unable to proxy those classes is a major issue to me while migrating old software to a newer environment.
As soon as you deal with 5 to 10+ years old software and try to migrate your large application step by step you will encounter framework base classes with (protected) final methods. CDI, @Inject and interceptors help a lot to cleanup the old stuff, however I have to extend (currently unproxyable) framework base classes to do so. Example: I have to extend AbstractFrameworkXyzAction with public and/ or protected final methods to implement use case logic, and the derived classes should be CDI beans.
On the other hand - changing the old jar's is not an option either.
With this feature I can stop copying the modified base classes to my local archive (mostly .war) in order to override the old classes.
Jens
Von: <cdi-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org<mailto:cdi-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org>> on behalf of Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine@sabot-durand.net<mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net>>
Datum: Tuesday 9 February 2016 17:36
An: CDI-Dev <cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org<mailto:cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>>
Betreff: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of classes with non-private final methods
Hi all,
There have been a lot of discussion around CDI-527 in the last weeks:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
Mark proposed a PR:
https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/271
But we don't agree on adding this feature to the spec.
This vote is to decide if we should add this feature at the spec level now, or not.
Should we vote this feature down, that won't mean it will be completely dropped: it could be implemented as non portable feature in both Spec or even be included as experimental feature in the spec (in annexes) as describe in the PR comments
Vote starts now, only vote from EG members are binding (but you can give your opinion if not part of the EG) and will last 72 hours.
You vote with the following values:
+1 : I'm favorable for adding this feature in the spec
-1 : I'm against adding this feature in the spec
0 : I don't care
Thank you for your attention and your vote.
Antoine Sabot-Durand
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 17:42:59 +0000
From: Emily Jiang <EMIJIANG@uk.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of
classes with non-private final methods
To: cdi-dev <cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>
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+1.
This is a really useful feature as more and more customers will move
forward to Java8 and might hit this problem.
Many thanks,
Emily
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From: Jens Schumann <jens.schumann@openknowledge.de>
To: cdi-dev <cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>,
Date: 09/02/2016 17:15
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying
of classes with non-private final methods
Sent by: cdi-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org
+1
(even though I can live with a portable alternative approach to the
current PR)
So far I did not express my support for this PR even though I promised to
do so. Unable to proxy those classes is a major issue to me while
migrating old software to a newer environment.
As soon as you deal with 5 to 10+ years old software and try to migrate
your large application step by step you will encounter framework base
classes with (protected) final methods. CDI, @Inject and interceptors help
a lot to cleanup the old stuff, however I have to extend (currently
unproxyable) framework base classes to do so. Example: I have to extend
AbstractFrameworkXyzAction with public and/ or protected final methods to
implement use case logic, and the derived classes should be CDI beans.
On the other hand - changing the old jar's is not an option either.
With this feature I can stop copying the modified base classes to my local
archive (mostly .war) in order to override the old classes.
Jens
Von: <cdi-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org> on behalf of Antoine Sabot-Durand <
antoine@sabot-durand.net>
Datum: Tuesday 9 February 2016 17:36
An: CDI-Dev <cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>
Betreff: [cdi-dev] [Vote] for CDI-527 / PR 271 allow proxying of classes
with non-private final methods
Hi all,
There have been a lot of discussion around CDI-527 in the last weeks:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-527
Mark proposed a PR:
https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/271
But we don't agree on adding this feature to the spec.
This vote is to decide if we should add this feature at the spec level
now, or not.
Should we vote this feature down, that won't mean it will be completely
dropped: it could be implemented as non portable feature in both Spec or
even be included as experimental feature in the spec (in annexes) as
describe in the PR comments
Vote starts now, only vote from EG members are binding (but you can give
your opinion if not part of the EG) and will last 72 hours.
You vote with the following values:
+1 : I'm favorable for adding this feature in the spec
-1 : I'm against adding this feature in the spec
0 : I don't care
Thank you for your attention and your vote.
Antoine Sabot-Durand_______________________________________________
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