What's to be gained by removing this now? Configuration is definitely going to change between 4.2 and 5.0 and it sounds like this isn't such a major headache. Or maybe I'm missing something.

Mark.


On 6 May 2007, at 15:26, Tom Fennelly wrote:

Hehehe... I expected this would come back at some stage :-) The potential for errors caused by duplication Vs the potential errors caused by the confusion/frustration brought about by excessive normalisation (following references around the config before you eventually find what you're looking for)... which is a greater risk??? hmmmm...


Kurt T Stam wrote:
You mean it annoys you ;)? You still have to define it the jms provider
info. Does it really matter where it is? Maybe I'm not understanding
this correctly, but I don't see why this would be annoying. It's reduces
the amount of configuration bugs. Providing a channel is different then
listening to it. We can sit down next week and add a jca-listener to the
xsd and I'll add a mapper for it, easy stuff.

--Kurt

Bill Burke wrote:

  

Its simple.  If you are only declaring one listener for one provider,
then there really is no need to describe a provider.  Its extra syntax
sugar that just annoys the user.

Mark Little wrote:

    

Bill, could you provide an example of what you want to accomplish (a
before and after)? It may help to remove any confusion.

Cheers,

Mark.


On 4 May 2007, at 22:43, Bill Burke wrote:

      

I would like to remove the bus/provider requirement that
listeners/gateways have.

The move is basically around cutting the amount of syntax sugar that
is required when writing a gateway or a listener.  My bet is that in
a majority of cases, the provider/bus syntax/metadata is not
reusable. Why require the extra metadata?

This is even more so when plugging in JCA since JCA in/out is
configured separately, or in the case of JMS, might not even have an
outbound configuration.

Bill

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