That sounds good. Please post to forge-dev@lists.jboss.org when you want help getting this rolling!
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM, James Strachan <jstracha@redhat.com> wrote:
Hey :)
The scala code is ported to Java now; why don’t we get the little ‘project creator’ command in fabric8 working; then when its there, we could post it to the forge list to see about including/sharing/reusing the same stuff there too?
On 21 May 2014, at 12:33, Grzegorz Grzybek <ggrzybek@redhat.com> wrote:Hello - sorry I couldn't start the discussion... But I still remember that it's quite important ;)
regards
Grzegorz Grzybek
I think that sounds like a good idea. If we can consume this as a library, it would make things very easy to implement. It would also probably give you guys a migration path so you don't immediately have to jump to Forge on drop 0.
Forge has a number of ways of locating resources, we can come up with a nice pattern for this :)
Shall we move this discussion to forge-dev@lists.jboss.org or #forge on irc.freenode.net and get started?
~Lincoln
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:13 AM, James Strachan <jstracha@redhat.com> wrote:
Yeah, we might wanna polish the archetype generator code into its own jar/bundle thats got minimal dependencies & is easier to use stand alone (so it could be more easily consumed from inside Forge).
For the ‘create project’ command/plugin I figured we’d discover the available archetypes on the classpath somehow; in Fuse IDE (the Fuse/Camel plugins now in JBDS) we just did a bit of code generation to put the archetype jars inside the plugin. Something a bit more extensible, eventually, might be nice for Forge; though for fabric8 just having a curated list of archetypes from the fabric8 project itself will be fine for us for a while ;)
On 15 May 2014, at 08:03, Grzegorz Grzybek <ggrzybek@redhat.com> wrote:Hello!
Awesome, thanks Grzegorz!Thanks for links - so another item on my TODO list ;)
BTW a bit of background for you, sorry I should have said - there’s been discussions in the past of adding a nice ability to create new projects from archetypes nicely into JBoss Forge:
the mvn command line to generate archetypes isn’t awesome ;) and we could curate a nice default set with auto-completion of all the known jboss archetypes from our projects (and maybe have a nice little way to filter them by tag/project name/tech etc) with tab completion etc
I'll think about how to make it easier both for Forge and commands inside Fabric8.
regards
Grzegorz
On 15 May 2014, at 07:55, Grzegorz Grzybek <ggrzybek@redhat.com> wrote:Hello!
I successfully ported insight-maven stuff from Scala (it's Maven's Aether concept to deal with repositories). But now I'm 30% in camel-tooling-util. Scala is not really needed here and I see it has much more cons than pros!
I know that for Scala ninjas this language is the ultimate expression tool, but reading it after few years is not such a Zen experience after all.
As someone said - Java8 is the new Java, not Scala. Of course I don't want to rewrite all this code into lambda-spaghetti, but good old Java6 syntax is enough :)
And after porting camel-tooling-util back to Java, I'll look at https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/issues/1091 which is about making creating projects from archetypes much easier.
regards
Grzegorz
Cool; wanna CC Grzegorz and myself?; am hoping at some point Grzegorz gets the chance to port the existing Archetype creation code from scala to java so its a little leaner & meaner and easier to reuse in Forge.
On 14 May 2014, at 20:31, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com> wrote:Okay cool. We'll continue to go down the archetype route and see if we can get that working for you guys. It would help if we had someone on your team who could take point on this so we can assist. Is that possible?
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:29 PM, James Strachan <jstracha@redhat.com> wrote:
Ah yeah - just chatted to Dave; this is some gem based stuff for generating projects from templates; which is cool too. We went the maven archetype direction in Fuse IDE (now the Fuse / Camel tooling in JBDS) and now have lots of archetypes (both on upstream projects like camel & cxf and in JBoss Fuse); so I’m personally more keen to support archetypes ASAP; but the more tooling and options the better! :)
On 14 May 2014, at 17:58, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com> wrote:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-273
Also just got contacted by some people from GSS who are working on fusegen and want to merge that into Forge. Do you know anything about that?Wai Chun Hoi, and Dave Stanley.
~Lincoln
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:50 AM, James Strachan <jstracha@redhat.com> wrote:
Sounds cool; am around until about 2-3pm I think so late morning sounds cool.
FWIW we added an archetype generator a while back into eclipse so it was easy for folks to start projects & we pre-baked all our camel/fuse archetypes - as using the maven archetype:generate command line is so utterly awful.
Here’s the code to create an archetype from the mvn coordinates of the archetype distro:https://github.com/fabric8io/fabric8/blob/master/tooling/camel-tooling-util/src/main/scala/io/fabric8/camel/tooling/util/ArchetypeHelper.scala#L45
e.g. here’s a test case that creates a bunch of archetypes - no maven is required etc:
I was hoping we could cobble something like this into a standard command; then have nice tab completion on the list of archetypes we ship by default in Forge which groks all the jboss / fuse / apache archetypes we want to prime it with; and make it easy for folks to add/load/configure others. e.g. JBoss Fuse ships with a bunch of archetypes (but they are not sync’d to maven central); so it’d be nice if all jboss products that have archetypes were baked into Forge (e.g. EAP / Fuse / Fuse Service Works / BRMS etc).
Hope that helps - would love to port the code to plain java ;) but I guess whats another massive jar dependency on spring-library between friends ;)
Anyway - hope to see you around this morning. Go Errai! :)
On 16 Apr 2014, at 02:52, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com> wrote:Let's talk about this tomorrow (today.) I'll be over at the conference in the late morning. And I'll be at the hack-fest.
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Email: jstracha@redhat.com
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
James-------Red Hat
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Email: jstracha@redhat.com
Blog: http://macstrac.blogspot.com/
hawtio: http://hawt.io/
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http://ocpsoft.org
"Simpler is better."
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Email: jstracha@redhat.com
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hawtio: http://hawt.io/
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"Simpler is better."