...which is pretty consistent with my point as well. It's too over-engineered (as are the arguments as to why it isn't) for low-level containers. But the need (to live in this world) is nothing a layer of abstraction can't satiate :)

-Dan

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM, JFlower <fiorenzino@gmail.com> wrote:
i remember this post:

I've rarely in my life met a more overengineered, overcomplex spec than OSGi. Compatibility with OSGi should be an anti-requirement in any sane world.
Unfortunately we live in this world :-(

Gavin King

[http://in.relation.to/22155.lace]

Fiorenzo

PS i never used osgi in my jee apps, and i hate my eclipse when i need to restart it after a plugin installation...

2012/9/25 <ggastald@redhat.com>
Hello,

I've been done some thinking and researching for Forge 2.0 based on the last forge meeting we had and the current code in the 2.0 branch, and it seems that the architecture we're looking for is very close to OSGi architecture itself (regarding to plugability and modularity).

I'm also afraid that we'll face the same problems that OSGi tries to solve. As my current experience with OSGi is next to minimal (and probably to better understand why and have some arguments if someone asks me about it), I would like some opinions about the advantages/disadvantages of why not having the Forge container as an OSGi compliant solution.

Also, don't get me wrong: I am not trying to convince anyone of using OSGi into the forge core, just want to understand better why this architecture is not a viable solution so far. I know Lincoln is against using it, but I just want some arguments in case someone asks me in conferences and stuff :)

Of course, we need to keep using CDI and annotations as well. So if it's possible to have that and at the same time the modularity (and plugability) offered by OSGi, it would be awesome.

Looking forward for your answers !

Best Regards,

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JBoss Forge Team
Red Hat

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