On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Marius Bogoevici <mariusb@redhat.com> wrote:


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Allen" <dan.j.allen@gmail.com>
> To: "forge-dev List" <forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:56:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [forge-dev] What to do about our little Windows joke...?
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> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Marius Bogoevici <
> mariusb@redhat.com > wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Bakker" < paul.bakker.nl@gmail.com >
> > To: "forge-dev List" < forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >
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> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:42:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [forge-dev] What to do about our little Windows
> > joke...?
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> > What you guys like jokes? How unprofessional!
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> > Unfortunately there is a large group of developers that thinks that
> > way... I wish it were different, but it would probably be best to
> > remove this stuff. We won't "win" any users by adding jokes, but we
> > might piss some people off.
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> They aren't amused.
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> Seriously, if people are offended because someone criticizes Windows,
> then my feeling is that they are just reading too much into it. It's
> not like the Windows shell is so amazing it doesn't warrant some
> criticism.

I didn't discuss Windows jokes in particular, I was making a deadpan reference
to the Victorian-like morals of professionalism vs. humour, answering Paul
(who was answering me in turn).

Now that you bring it up, someone may feel it's not our business to
criticize their environment, as horrible as it is (everyone likes funny
as long as they're not the target). In that light, if we go with the jokes, we may want to
add a self-deprecating note and that may be fine too (right now it really sounds like
we're mocking them, which is a kind of humour not everyone will partake in).

But, generally speaking, we may want to reflect whether we want to potentially filter
our audience by exercising our sense of humour on them, or do other things
like making this feature (which I am sure a lot of users will enjoy) optional.

... or another option is to just add 'Wink,wink! Nudge,nudge!' after the message. That would have
my full approval.

:)

I hear ya.

The summary seems to be "comment on the command line impl specifically, not the OS in general", "make it clear it's just a joke with a emotion" and finally, "display it only once".

I think those are reasonable action items to keep the humor in. If it really does turn people off of Forge, I suppose I'd have to reevaluate my position :)

-Dan

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