As for the non dep idea, I can certainly understand where Lincoln and Pete are coming from.

I don't.

I do wonder though if that would preclude us from creating a CDI extension for rolling our own simple CRUD framework

The one reasonable path I see here is working out the framework and then having Forge just spit it out into the project. (I know that will turn Richard's stomach). But then, it's easy to nuke that package and add the dep...likely update the imports to use the right package too. In fact, *that* could be a Forge plugin. It would be called

forge> leave-javaee-purist-mode

-Dan