11:18 p.m.
Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
It would be nice if we have something like
http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
(somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
"org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
display these Wizards ?
Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the plugin.xml).
The latest code can be found in
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
Looking forward to your suggestions,
Best Regards,
--
*George Gastaldi* | /Senior Software Engineer/
JBoss Forge Team
Red Hat
3:58 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
It would be nice if we have something like
http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
(somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
"org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, perspectives and
wizards.
I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register all forge
operations as commands...
one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in xml so they can be
loaded without
loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently has so notion -
everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an
UI
in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space i'm fine :)
Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
display these Wizards ?
Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when pressing
the command shortcut for Forge ?
Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based
on
the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the plugin.xml).
The latest code can be found in
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
--
/max
4:06 p.m.
Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that
show up
when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how
to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for
that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :)
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
> >
> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>
> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>
> > It would be nice if we have something like
> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>
> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views,
> perspectives and wizards.
>
> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register
> all forge operations as commands...
>
> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in
> xml so they can be loaded without
> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently
> has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>
> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>
> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space
> i'm fine :)
>
> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> > display these Wizards ?
>
Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that
show up
> when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the
> plugin.xml).
> > The latest code can be found in
> >
>
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>
> --
> /max
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
--
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http://ocpsoft.org
"Simpler is better."
4:51 p.m.
I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is not possible. All
the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the search dialog. Moreover, all
of this code is unfortunately in internal packages with restricted access so it's not
even possible to do any dirty tricks.
Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It doesn't solve
the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though…
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have
that show up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how to get
started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for that, but we have some
other priority architectural items to do first :)
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
----- Original Message -----
> Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
>
> I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
> It would be nice if we have something like
> http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, perspectives and
wizards.
I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register all forge
operations as commands...
one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in xml so they can
be loaded without
loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently has so notion -
everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
> My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space i'm fine
:)
> Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> display these Wizards ?
Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when pressing
the command shortcut for Forge ?
> Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the plugin.xml).
> The latest code can be found in
>
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
--
/max
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http://ocpsoft.org
"Simpler is better."
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5:01 p.m.
We can add one item to the Quick Access that brings up the Forge Menu. WDYT?
Also, can we re-use any of that internal quick-access code to make our
lives easier?
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is
not
possible. All the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the
search dialog. Moreover, all of this code is unfortunately in internal
packages with restricted access so it's not even possible to do any dirty
tricks.
Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It
doesn't solve the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though…
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show
up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how
to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for
that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :)
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
> >
> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>
> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>
> > It would be nice if we have something like
> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>
> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views,
> perspectives and wizards.
>
> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to
> register all forge operations as commands...
>
> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in
> xml so they can be loaded without
> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently
> has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>
> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>
> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space
> i'm fine :)
>
> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> > display these Wizards ?
>
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up
> when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the
> plugin.xml).
> > The latest code can be found in
> >
>
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>
> --
> /max
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
--
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http://ocpsoft.org
"Simpler is better."
_______________________________________________
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--
Lincoln Baxter, III
http://ocpsoft.org
"Simpler is better."
5:40 p.m.
The registered commands that bring up the current Forge popups already appear in the Quick
Access by default.
And surely there is a good amount of code that can be reused to improve the looks of the
current popup.
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 17:01 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
We can add one item to the Quick Access that brings up the Forge
Menu. WDYT?
Also, can we re-use any of that internal quick-access code to make our lives easier?
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is not possible. All
the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the search dialog. Moreover, all
of this code is unfortunately in internal packages with restricted access so it's not
even possible to do any dirty tricks.
Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It doesn't solve
the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though…
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
> > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when
pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how to get
started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for that, but we have some
other priority architectural items to do first :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
> >
> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>
> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>
> > It would be nice if we have something like
> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>
> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, perspectives
and wizards.
>
> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register all
forge operations as commands...
>
> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in xml so they
can be loaded without
> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently has so notion
- everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>
> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>
> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space i'm
fine :)
>
> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> > display these Wizards ?
>
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when
pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the plugin.xml).
> > The latest code can be found in
> >
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>
> --
> /max
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
>
>
> --
> Lincoln Baxter, III
> http://ocpsoft.org
> "Simpler is better."
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
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10:08 p.m.
Ok great.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The registered commands that bring up the current Forge popups
already
appear in the Quick Access by default.
And surely there is a good amount of code that can be reused to improve
the looks of the current popup.
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 17:01 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
We can add one item to the Quick Access that brings up the Forge Menu.
WDYT?
Also, can we re-use any of that internal quick-access code to make our
lives easier?
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is not
> possible. All the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the
> search dialog. Moreover, all of this code is unfortunately in internal
> packages with restricted access so it's not even possible to do any dirty
> tricks.
> Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It
> doesn't solve the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though…
>
> Cheers,
> Koen
>
> Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show
> up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how
> to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for
> that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
> max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
>> >
>> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
>> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
>> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>>
>> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>>
>> > It would be nice if we have something like
>> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
>> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
>> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
>> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
>> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
>> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not
an
>> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>>
>> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views,
>> perspectives and wizards.
>>
>> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to
>> register all forge operations as commands...
>>
>> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in
>> xml so they can be loaded without
>> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently
>> has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>>
>> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
>> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>>
>> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more
>> space i'm fine :)
>>
>> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
>> > display these Wizards ?
>>
>> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show
>> up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>>
>> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
>> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
>> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the
>> plugin.xml).
>> > The latest code can be found in
>> >
>>
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>>
>> --
>> /max
>> _______________________________________________
>> forge-dev mailing list
>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Lincoln Baxter, III
> http://ocpsoft.org
> "Simpler is better."
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
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"Simpler is better."
2:05 p.m.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:06:52AM -0400, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that
show up
when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how
to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for
that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :)
You are EPL coded - copy the UI constructs from quickaccess and voila - instant beauty :)
/max
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <
max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
> >
> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>
> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>
> > It would be nice if we have something like
> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>
> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views,
> perspectives and wizards.
>
> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register
> all forge operations as commands...
>
> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in
> xml so they can be loaded without
> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently
> has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>
> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>
> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space
> i'm fine :)
>
> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> > display these Wizards ?
>
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up
> when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the
> plugin.xml).
> > The latest code can be found in
> >
>
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>
> --
> /max
> _______________________________________________
> forge-dev mailing list
> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>
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2:09 p.m.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 04:51:52PM +0200, Koen Aers wrote:
I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is
not possible. All the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the search
dialog. Moreover, all of this code is unfortunately in internal packages with restricted
access so it's not even possible to do any dirty tricks.
Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It doesn't solve
the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though…
Forge has more presence in the UI than many other featuers - it has wizards, commands and
views, all that shows up in ordinary places.
its not supposed to be more "in your face" than other things.
/max
Cheers,
Koen
Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven:
> > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when
pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how to get
started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for that, but we have some
other priority architectural items to do first :)
>
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers,
> >
> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the
> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually
> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j).
>
> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :)
>
> > It would be nice if we have something like
> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly
> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way,
> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging
> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we
> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the
> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an
> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here.
>
> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, perspectives
and wizards.
>
> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register all
forge operations as commands...
>
> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in xml so they
can be loaded without
> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently has so notion
- everything is loaded; no lazy loading.
>
> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI
> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ?
>
> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space i'm
fine :)
>
> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to
> > display these Wizards ?
>
> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when
pressing the command shortcut for Forge ?
>
> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on
> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an
> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the plugin.xml).
> > The latest code can be found in
> >
https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t...
>
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