On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Heiko Rupp <hrupp@redhat.com> wrote:

I think though that the removal of Hawkular Services is wrong.
It may indeed at the moment only exist for that one consumer,
which is ManageIQ, but not listing it is in my opinion also
confusing. Instead of removing it, we should perhaps better
educate visitors of the web site (in a graphical way?) how this
relates to the other projects.

I'm sure we have stats on what people downloads the most... is it metrics/alerts standalone, or services? We could take it in consideration. Having it removed from the menu really makes things clearer, I think, but on the other hand we could find ways not to make it completely off the radars. For instance, adding something at the top of metrics/alerts install page: "Looking for integrated metrics + alerting? Check out Hawkular Services".

Another thing about services disappearing: the shame is that IMO it currently has a better-written doc than metrics (the quickstart guide is good, the installation guide is better than metric's simple link to github).