I remember there was some discussion to refactor listeners to drop the concept of pre-events and have the previous value available in the post-event (where applicable). I do not remember what decision was made about this. But if we do it, that would be already a big backwards incompatible change, so modifying some defaults regarding the behavior of the Listener annotation is just mildly disturbing. We'll have to apologize/document this anyway and also provide migration advice.

On 08/22/2016 09:15 PM, William Burns wrote:
I like the idea of having a variable to set on the listener annotation.  This way we can know for sure if we need to force previous values for some listeners and not for others.

It seems the default should be to force the previous value to be more inline with the current behavior, but I fear no one will use the opposite in this case though.  What do you guys think?

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:31 AM Adrian Nistor <anistor@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi Radim,

Continuous query is built on top of these listeners. CQ _always_ needs
the previous value and it is very convenient in this case that the
command is forced to load the previous value. I imagine there may be
other use cases where we cannot live without the prev value.

I think the listener should be able to state if it needs the prev value
at registration time. Maybe add a new attribute in the Listener
annotation? Similar to how we handled Observation.

Adrian

On 08/19/2016 11:34 PM, Radim Vansa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as I am trying to simplify current entry wrapping and distribution code,
> I often find that listeners can get wrong previous value in the event,
> and it sometimes forces the command to load the value even if it is not
> needed for the command.
>
> I am wondering if we should change the previous value in events to
> Optional - we can usually at least detect that we cannot provide a
> reliable value (e.g. after retry due to topology change, or because the
> command did not bothered to load the previous value from cache loader)
> and return empty Optional.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Radim
>

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