and if it fails with a really great error message, like "you updated a component which can not be at runtime restarted, please restart you instance"  You would win the prize for best usability ever. ;)

Jim Tyrrell
Senior JBoss Solutions Architect

Did you see RHT on CNBC's Mad Money?
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39401056



On May 5, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Pete Muir wrote:

I know this thread, but I think it's worth correcting a misconception here.

On 26 Apr 2011, at 08:17, Remy Maucherat wrote:

On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 13:49 +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
You would rather have the server out of the box be TCK compliant
than usable for development ? I thought we were pass the mistakes
made in latest AS and EAP being targeted purely for production ?

The dev scenario I described using a marker (or the equivalent API call
to trigger a redeploy) seems far more sustainable, even if it takes a
bit more time (framework init, etc).

Application developers do not care about sustainability. They care about turnaround and development time.

Operations guys care about sustainability.

This update-without-redeploy stuff is really important, and I've seen this misunderstanding before with concerns like "well the update will not always succeed" - in development this does not matter one bit. If it the update fails, you simply restart the AS and it starts working again.
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