From: "Jim Tyrrell" <jtyrrell@redhat.com>
To: "Andrig Miller" <anmiller@redhat.com>
Cc: "jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org Development" <jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:53:33 AM
Subject: Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Changes to .jsp in an exploded deployment        no longer picked up?

Andy,

So if AS 7 is more development focused, I agree it can/should be, can any and all decisions made/discussed/etc on this list, make that experience the best it can be.
Yes, I would say so.

Worrisome threads in the last week:
Should a welcome page exist
Being taken care of though, right.
Should it be enabled to have a .jsp to be hot deployed
Looks like David Lloyd has this in the right track.
How should lifecyles of datasource deployments be "configured/monitored/changed"
That discussion looks like it is also headed in the right direction.

On a side vein I still worry about adoption and the learning curve of all of this new amazing stuff.
I think we all do, and I think one of the things that we need to do is all of us get the message out there for people to download, and test out Beta 3 and 4, and see how many eyes we can get on it.

Probably a few others, but those have been on my mind this week.

Jim Tyrrell
Senior JBoss Solutions Architect

Did you see RHT on CNBC's Mad Money?



On Apr 26, 2011, at 8:46 AM, Andrig Miller wrote:




From: "Jim Tyrrell" <jtyrrell@redhat.com>
To: "jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org Development" <jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 7:56:11 AM
Subject: Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Changes to .jsp in an exploded deployment        no        longer picked up?

My two cents,

As we do today, I am thinking you need to have configs out of the box that can be started.

Production
Development

Maybe even JMS
or WS
or....

I think prepackaged tested configs are a good idea as one size will not fit all.  We have done this for a long time and am wondering out loud why that notion would be removed?
There is a requirement in the PRD to have a development configuration and a production configuration, but that is specific to EAP.  Traditionally, we have made the AS distribution more "development" focused out-of-the-box.

I'm not sure, in this specific case what is the best option, but EAP will have a production and development configuration (perhaps a script that sets things up for either using the management API).

Andy

Jim Tyrrell
Senior JBoss Solutions Architect

Did you see RHT on CNBC's Mad Money?



On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:39 AM, ssilvert@redhat.com wrote:

Quoting Jaikiran Pai <jpai@redhat.com>:

Thinking a bit more about this, I don't see any use of supporting
exploded deployments (out of the box) if we don't support dynamic
changes to .jsps (out of the box). What else can be changed dynamically
in an exploded deployment?

xhtml (Facelets) pages can behave the same as JSP's as long as you are  
in development mode.


-Jaikiran
On Tuesday 26 April 2011 04:52 PM, Remy Maucherat wrote:
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 16:40 +0530, Jaikiran Pai wrote:
The better default will now be used: development will remain as "false".
IMO, before going to production with the server, any developer/team
would go through a development phase in which he would definitely like
this feature. So having this turned on by default (atleast in standalone
mode), IMO, makes sense.

P.S: I created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AS7-659 and was about to
send out a pull request with a patch, before I saw this reply. If
there's any objection to this change, then I'll wait for a resolution on
this discussion.

I have rejected the jira.


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