> From: manderse@redhat.com
> To: paul.verest@live.com
> CC: mistria@redhat.com; angelo.zerr@gmail.com; jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse process vs just OSS RE: Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 09:59:30 +0200
>
> >>> Just want to add that Eclipse is regarded by some as some overhead.
> >>
> >> yes, and if you don't want to do that overhead you can't expect to be
> >> integrated
> >> in overall solutions. That is fine and complete fair to say.
> > It is great that we agree about overhead. When it is said openly and
> > with exact additional steps,that would make it clear and
> > comprehensive.
>
> Funny enough i'm not really following what you mean with "said openly
> and with exact additional steps" ?
>
> You want someone from eclipse.org to say "The Eclipse process might be
> perceived as heavy and not for everyone - but that is OK." ?

Something like

Eclipse process adds a few steps

- signing CLA [link]

- setting up project on Github [link], Ecipse git [link]

I have never contributed to Eclipse project,

so I don't know exact steps.

>
> >>> Maybe simple explanation and success example can show that it s
> >>> easy.
> >>
> >> vert.x is at eclipse now - yes, there is overhead but github is used
> >> for
> >> contributions.
> >>
> >>> (Especially with cases when code/interactions continues to be on
> >>> GitHub)
> >>> And that would be one more nice addition to what is missing on
> >>> eclipse.org site.
> >>
> >> What page are you looking at where this is not highlighted enough ?
> > I don't know URLs to concise answer to this thread topic.
>
> Okey but you said it is somehow missing on eclipse.org so i'm just
> wondering where you have been looking ?

http://www.eclipse.org/committers/

I did not really know what to search.

Eclipse has a lot of resources in many places with different level of relevance.

>
> Here is first hits I get when searching eclipse.org github:
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/GitHub
>
> searching on the wiki gives you details on how you hook up the CLA
> check: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding/Hosting_a_Project_at_GitHub
>
> and http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources explains it too.
>
> and finally the most central page on this is probably
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Social_Coding
>
> What is the page/info you feel are missing in the above ?
>
> I think the problem you are seeing is a perception problem and that
> eclipse.org actually have gone
> a long way since many years ago. Yes, there is still a process, and yes
> it is heavy at times when you need
> to check your dependencies are actually clean - but in day to day work
> it is really not different than
> any other project.

Well. That was discussion between the person who knows (Max)

and the person who didn't see what he had imagine (Paul).

Now I know how to start and where to ask when needed.

>
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen