Hi Michael

Just want to add that Eclipse is regarded by some as some overhead.
Maybe simple explanation and success example can show that it s easy.
(Especially with cases when code/interactions continues to be on GitHub)
And that would be one more nice addition to what is missing on eclipse.org site.

Contributing on GitHub I myself ran into situation when PR are not even commented for a month or two.


Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:35:29 +0200
From: mistria@redhat.com
To: paul.verest@live.com; angelo.zerr@gmail.com
CC: jbosstools-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?

Hi Paul,

On 05/20/2014 12:09 PM, Paul Verest wrote:
I suggest to lobby that Eclipse would recognize non-Eclipse.org projects under EPL license as valuable part of Eclipse eco-system
MarketPlace was done to fulfill this goal and it works pretty well. Some non Eclipse.org project have been pretty successful thanks to MarketPlace and MarketPlace client. I think those should thank the Foundation for that.

that Eclipse project committers should be aware of, give and take help.
e.g. https://github.com/eclipse-color-theme/eclipse-color-theme
The issue with the multiplication of projects out of Eclipse.org is that you end up with different process to contribute and don't have the guarantee a contribution would be appreciated and considered. Being on GitHub is not a proof of an open development process, it's "just" OSS code. That's why it makes sense for contributors/consumers (like us) to encourage projects to become official Eclipse projects. Eclipse Foundation has set up rules that ensure a really open development process and that guarantee that a project can't be locked, and that encourage contributions over forks. It makes things safer.

Something like open letter from Eclipse Foundation to Eclipse plugins authors.
That's probably a good idea.
Maybe the Foundation (or the community in general) should make it more official that projects on GitHub/MarketPlace are welcome to become official Eclipse projects and explain to authors that being an Eclipse.org project is a sign of real openness and a generator of success.

But in any way, I can fully understand from the Foundation POV and from our "consumer" POV, that there is and will always be a distinction between Eclipse.org and non-Eclipse.org projects. The Foundation rules are definitely something good, that make a difference.

Please also help to connect to Red Hat China managers or marketing.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in Red Hat office in China. Maybe Rob (Stryker) can help.

@Angelo Would this email get into jbosstools-dev list?
Yes, it's on. And this answer too. Check you CC list before sending mails ;)
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