just want to raise that we don't need to move to apache - we can make anyone a contributor
on the jboss tools freemarker plugin that agreeds to the jboss CLA.

Can also decide to move it over to a foundation like Eclipse (or Apache) - just need someone
willing to go through IP review and handle the renames that would be needed.

/max
http://about.me/maxandersen

On 6 Mar 2018, at 9:35, Nick Boldt wrote:

I'm no lawyer but afaik you should easily be able to just fork the github repo at push that new fork up to apache.org. The code's currently under EPL so moving it to ASL should be easily done -- or just leave it as-is, if it's OK to have ASF-hosted code under an EPL license.

The project should be easy enough to build as long as you keep it current against the latest JBoss Tools parent pom [1] version. If you prefer to not have cross-org dependencies, or are not allowed to, you will probably have to implement your own parent pom (copy from ours into the freemarker plugin project's root pom).

[1] https://github.com/jbosstools/jbosstools-build/blob/master/parent/pom.xml

If you need to rebrand it (change namespace from org.jboss to org.apache) there's a way to ensure that old versions can still be updated through the namespace change. I can provide you with a PR or sample code for the p2.inf instructions you need in your feature(s) to support such a name change. 

It's really not that much work to move to another foundation -- we've often contributed org.jboss plugins/features to Eclipse so I know it's doable. 

Once you have it hosted at apache, building and publishing an update site (and/or zip) should be fairly easy too. Do you have a Jenkins or Hudson instance you can use there?

Nick




On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:43 AM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany@freemail.hu> wrote:
Monday, March 5, 2018, 10:46:59 PM, Nick Boldt wrote:

> Great question. See reply in
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-final-deprecated/49119784#49119784

Thanks!

> Turns out we JUST removed Freemarker tooling from the forthcoming
> JBoss Tools 4.5.3.AM2 build (to be released tomorrow), after deprecating it in July 2017.
>
> So, it could come back if you're willing to take ownership of the
> tooling builds & publication.

Sure, I'm willing to (assuming there's no crazy administrative
overhead). In fact, I have asked about this earlier (like years ago),
as it was difficult to get my PR-s merged.

Or, just my quick idea, but you can perhaps donate the code to the
ASF, where the FreeMarker project is anyway. Haven't looked into how
messy that would be legally though...

> Do you have any stats to demonstrate the size of its user base?

Nope.

People who need this plugin need it because of FreeMarker, and they
have no "relationship" with the other JBoss IDE products, so... as the
installation instructions on apache.freemarker.org say, they only
install the FreeMarker plugin. Then no statistics are collected, as
far as I understand from your answer on StackOverflow.

> Nick
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 3:05 AM, Daniel Dekany <ddekany@freemail.hu> wrote:
> I have noticed months ago that the FreeMarker plugin was deprecated.
> As a current maintainer of FreeMarker, I would like to know what will
> it practically mean in the future, such as, will PR-s be still
> integrated, will the artifacts be still hosted, and for how long? What
> steps should we (at FreeMarker) take to ensure that the plugin remains
> available for users (if any)?
>
> Also, can someone answer this user question about the deprecation (as
> I'm not entirely sure about the answer either)?:
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49072160/why-is-freemarker-ide-in-eclipse-oxygen-jboss-tools-4-5-2-final-deprecated
>
> --
> Thanks,
>  Daniel Dekany
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 Daniel Dekany




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