Great point.  I always throw some WS stuff into my various presentations.  The big win being I consume it in VB.NET and talk to things like JBoss Rules or an EJB from .NET.  

 

However, I have to fill at least 1 hour of “hands-on” with JBossWS in the “laptop workshop” (I’m helping coordinate all of the workshop materials since Daryl left the company).   Here is what I’m thinking:

* Lab 1: 181 WS POJO using the “servlet” technique – I’m not sure if this approach as an official name

Soapui as a consumer (I can’t expect students to have VB.NET on their laptops but will demo that concept)

* Lab 2: Same as above but using a Person object (or something more complex) as a return type/input parameter.  SoapUI as a consumer

* Lab 3: Take existing SLSB and throw an @WebService on it (from the EJB3 workshop labs).  The SLSB that I have has CRUD methods over an entity bean.  Soapui as a consumer.

 

Is that 60 minutes worth of student’s setup laptops, instructor demo, students try it, instructor walks around the room and helps students get it working on their various laptops?

 

What would Lab 4 be?  Wsdl2java?  It would be cool to show WS-Security or MTOM but that is just too hard to setup and get working in a short timeframe (all exercises should be doable in 15 minutes or less with easy to setup tools/utilities).

 

The Office integration demos are still on the back burner. MSFT SOAPtookit doesn’t work with our stack and I’m awaiting stuff from MSFT (Office 2007 beta and whatever they end up calling VSTO).

 

I’ll then break into ESB related labs for the remaining 45 to 60 minutes of the workshop.

 

Burr

 

 


From: Heiko Braun
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:27 AM
To: Burr Sutter; 'Thomas Diesler'
Cc: 'jbossws-dev@lists.jboss.org'
Subject: RE: [jbossws-dev] Re: jax-ws client artifacts: wsimport or not?

 

You are right Burr.

That’s why I am adding to the intro demo…

 

In this case, we would need to communicate the Sun RI tools (wsimport).

IMO it’s no big deal, as long as all the presentations are consistent in this regard.

 

 

/Heiko

 

 


From: Burr Sutter
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Thomas Diesler; Heiko Braun
Cc: jbossws-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: RE: [jbossws-dev] Re: jax-ws client artifacts: wsimport or not?

 

I’m not sure if you want my 2 cents but option #1 makes for the best demo though many audience members would like to see the wsdl2java (contract first) method as well. I normally don’t show this but I do need to add it.  

 

Java2wsdl from the command is only for those folks wishing to integrate the WS development into their automated build scripts/unit testing. 

 

 


From: jbossws-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:jbossws-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Diesler
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 10:10 AM
To: Heiko Braun
Cc: jbossws-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [jbossws-dev] Re: jax-ws client artifacts: wsimport or not?

 

ok, lets do #1

Heiko Braun wrote:

From my point of view #1 is perfectly fine, at least for the JBW demos.

People wont realize it, since I start with an JSR181-EJB3 first and the pickup the WSDL from there.

 

/Heiko

 


From: Thomas Diesler [mailto:thomas.diesler@redhat.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 3:59 PM
To: Jason T. Greene
Cc: Heiko Braun; jbossws-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [jbossws-dev] Re: jax-ws client artifacts: wsimport or not?

 

This shows how badly broken the integration is. If we can do it in container, why can this not be done offline?

So what should the message be for java2wsdl?

#1 deploy to server, pickup the wsdl from the browser
#2 use wsgen

I'd opt for #1 otherwise we have people generating conflicting contracts.

cheers
-thomas


Jason T. Greene wrote:

We don't yet have an offline tool for java2wsdl.
http://jira.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBWS-1043
 
Last we discussed this task was delayed until the following were
completed:
- CTS compliance
- Backporting to jbossws-1.0
 
-Jason
  
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From: jbossws-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:jbossws-dev-
bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Diesler
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:35 AM
To: Heiko Braun
Cc: jbossws-dev@lists.jboss.org
Subject: [jbossws-dev] Re: jax-ws client artifacts: wsimport or not?
 
For java2wsdl use our tools.
For wsdl2java use wsimport and monitor
http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBWS-1042
 
-thomas
 
Heiko Braun wrote:
    
What's the (communication) strategy for jax-ws tools?
Are we going to point people to the RI tools until we are ready?
What should be communicated at JBW?
 
I am currently hacking the demo and don't know if I should hide the
      
RI
  
or not...
 
/Heiko
 
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