I take back my previous concept. I think making the parameters optional is good enough. No need for anything fancy.

+1 for my own first thought, lol

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Cagatay Civici <cagatay.civici@gmail.com> wrote:
+1 as well, most of the time it's a burden to add the unused event parameter.

Cagatay

On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Jason Lee wrote:

> +1
>
> I'd wager that half the time I don't need the parameter I'm required to pass in, so I'd love to this made optional.  Officially
>
> On 1/22/10 1:57 PM, Andy Schwartz wrote:
>> Cay Horstmann wrote:
>>> On 01/22/2010 08:52 AM, Kito Mann wrote:
>>>> Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with having a signature
>>>> that requires an event listener. Isn't that how most UI toolkits work?
>>>> What about Swing or SWT?
>>>>
>>>> I do understand the desire to have some code completely decoupled,
>>>> though. If we make the signature optional, though, I'm afraid that'll be
>>>> even more confusing for users.
>>>
>>> I don't think it is confusing to say "This parameter is optional". Lots of things are optional in JSF.
>>
>> Yep.  Actually, for the nearest equivalent to this use case - h:commandButton's actionListener - we have specified that the ActionEvent is now optional (as of 2.0 I believe).  From the tag doc:
>>
>>
>>> The expression must evaluate to a public method that takes an ActionEvent parameter, with a return type of void, or to a public method that takes no arguments with a return type of void. In the latter case, the method has no way of easily knowing where the event came from, but this can be useful in cases where a notification is needed that "some action happened".
>>
>>
>> Given that, my take is that:
>>
>> 1. Our biggest risk of confusion would be to have the the spec be inconsistent between these cases.
>> 2. The behavior specified for actionListener (event parameter is optional) is the preferred behavior.  (We intentionally added this behavior in 2.0).
>> 3. The fact that Mojarra implements this behavior for f:event's listener attribute as well is a good thing (and probably intentional).
>> 4. We should update the spec in our upcoming MR to clarify that the current behavior is by design.
>>
>> I have logged the following spec issue to track this:
>>
>> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=731
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>> The reason you want to make it so is to have a better unit testing story.
>>>
>>> Cay
>>>
>>
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