On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ed Burns <edward.burns@oracle.com> wrote:

>>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:51:53 +0100, Werner Punz <werner.punz@gmail.com> said:

WP> Btw. my personal opinion regarding all this is that this should be
WP> solved in a special spec which frameworks can attach to. After all
WP> the entire configuration change aspect is not only JSF specific but
WP> goes way depper into every framework.

WP> But I guess someone has to do the first step before an umbrella jsr
WP> spanning all JEE frameworks is opened :-)

Yes, that's certainly true. In fact, there's a time honored tradition
of JSF being an important place where innovation enters the platform.

This is a very thorough proposal, Werner. Thanks for preparing it.

I'd like to see this API done in terms of existing APIS, such as the
java.lang.management MBeans [1]. Is it possible we can use JMX rather
than introducing a new API?

Ed

[1] http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/management/overview.html#mbeans

I assume so, I just had a quick look at it, it sounds very sane to use it, since
it is part of the JDK since 5 so we are save to be able to run it in any context.
Secondly it deals with configuration singletons anyway, and

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/javax/management/Descriptor.html
seems to be able to handle get,insert,delete,update usecases.

But I am by far no expert in that part of the java API (I always skipped it for not having
ever used it in my life, I just knew it existed)

So can anyone with more insight can elaborate if we can reuse it?

Werner

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