On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz@oracle.com> wrote:

Dan's mission, before the expert group was disbanded, was to get all of these archives, including the threads from the missing periods:

Somewhere in my long list of missions, it's still in there :)
 

1.  Online.  And...
2.  Accessible without login.

I still think that this is a very critical goal for JSF.

+1
 

While I am grateful for the effort that JBoss has made in making the latest archives available on lists.jboss.org - and I have been taking full advantage of the ability to share these publicly accessible links -  this looks like a stop-gap measure to me.  It's been over a year since we first reported the problems with our archives to the JCP.  We need the JCP to finally come through and provide a more formal solution.

Absolutely. That's why I'm still so confused when I read statements like this on made by Eduardo:

"Some things you are asking already exist. For example, open mailing lists are totally OK with the current JCP process – although I know the infrastructure support for some of this is not where it should be." [1]

Not where it should be? I think it's pretty clear that the infrastructure for an open mailing list is pretty much non-existent. We *are* the expert group (or were) and we can't even make this happen.

The JCP has their own promises to worry about. I'm just trying to deliver on our promise. Every message sent to jsr-314-open@jcp.org should be available to the public and in one place.

-Dan

[1] http://ocpsoft.com/opensource/open-letter-to-the-jcp-executive-committee-calling-for-jcp-reform/#comment-2018

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