Hi guys,

I guess the way the navigation is structured right now is a side effect of my original design proposal, where we had a top level of navigation with “Overview”, “Applications” and “Realms”. I probably just replaced the top nav by the dropdown and honestly I did not consider putting the sidebar at the top.



I consider Stian’s change interesting since it optimizes the vertical space and removes one level of navigation. Usability wise, it is hard to say, probably better for the firsts accesses but with no gain after a couple of usages (since the user will get familiar with the navigation). 

I don't consider the removal of the breadcrumb something good since some people use it (Bill and I, at least) and it might reveal some level of navigation that is not displayed in the menu (e.g. My realm > Applications > My application > Roles). In this case, My application was not visible on the menus, so it helps the user to know where he is. 

I know that we won’t do anything now, but I just wanted to express my point of view ;)

Gabriel

On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:37 PM, Stian Thorgersen <stian@redhat.com> wrote:

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On 1/21/2014 11:27 AM, Stian Thorgersen wrote:
I hadn't considered the screencasts, and it does result in this having a
much bigger impact than I'd considered. So it's definitively not something
to do now, probably not in the future either.


I'm just being whiny and lazy and trying to find some lame reasons not
to have to redo the screencasts, but I really don't want to delay
another week.  If our current UI is inconsistent with Wildfly/JBoss
admin console, we should probably change it.  I'd really like Gabriel to
comment though...

Nah - it's a fair comment. Delaying for this is not a good idea, and redoing a bunch of screencasts is very time consuming. With that in mind I wouldn't have proposed this change.

Overall I think the usability of the admin console is really good. There probably could be improvements, but we shouldn't do anything without feedback from real users.


(BTW, I agree github is horrible...I can never figure out where things
are and always forget).


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