On Oct 5, 2015 21:33, "Stan Silvert" <ssilvert@redhat.com> wrote:
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> On 10/5/2015 2:26 PM, Thomas Raehalme wrote:
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>> On Oct 5, 2015 21:24, "Bill Burke" <bburke@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> > I'm still averse to allowing export from admin console of any
>> > credentials or private keys.
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>> Even if they are not directly downloadable but require access to the server just like now?
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> I think there should be no secrets ever downloadable from admin console.  Admin console is, by definition, remote.
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> If you have access to the server then you can use what is there now.
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> It is possible, however, that when we do our CLI implementation we can verify that the user is local and allow full access.  That way, you could do full export on a running server.  WildFly CLI already has logic to verify a user is local.

I guess that would be equal in terms of functionality, you just start the export from the CLI instead of from the admin console.

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>> > On 10/5/2015 2:02 PM, Stan Silvert wrote:
>> > > I'm actually starting on the design and implementation of this right
>> > > now.  It's import/export from the admin console.  It will also have the
>> > > ability to import/export partial pieces of a realm such as just users.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks for the comments so far on this thread.  They have been very helpful.
>> > >
>> > > We will keep the idea that no secrets should ever be exported from admin
>> > > console.  I'm not sure that having a flag for it in keycloak-server.json
>> > > helps.  To edit keycloak-server.json, you need access to the server, in
>> > > which case you might as well do the current import/export.
>> > >
>> > > So what do you do after you import a user with no credentials? Some ideas:
>> > > * The administrator can reset the password manually.
>> > > * The user can do password recovery (if enabled)
>> > >
>> > > An other ideas?
>> > >
>> > > Stan
>> > >
>> > > On 10/5/2015 12:34 PM, Tim Dudgeon wrote:
>> > >> That's a good point. Having to stop/start the server to generate an
>> > >> export is not ideal.
>> > >>
>> > >> Tim
>> > >>
>> > >> On 05/10/2015 11:56, Thomas Raehalme wrote:
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>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Bill Burke <bburke@redhat.com
>> > >>> <mailto:bburke@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>     On 10/4/2015 5:37 PM, Thomas Raehalme wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>         On Oct 4, 2015 23:57, "Bill Burke" <bburke@redhat.com
>> > >>>         <mailto:bburke@redhat.com <mailto:bburke@redhat.com>>> wrote:
>> > >>>          >
>> > >>>          > For security reasons we did not want to have a remote
>> > >>>         option to export.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> How about just storing the export as a local file on the server?
>> > >>> You'd need access to the server in order to get the file (making the
>> > >>> system compromised anyways). The change to current behaviour is that
>> > >>> you would be able to trigger the export at will without server restart.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Best regards,
>> > >>> Thomas
>> > >>>
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