On 06/02/2016 05:50 PM, Rostislav Svoboda wrote:

Rostislav Svoboda
Principal JBoss QA Engineer

On 06/01/2016 05:20 PM, Alessio Soldano wrote:
Il 01/06/2016 20:16, Ron Sigal ha scritto:

ARQ + Undertow know each other: http://arquillian.org/modules/undertow-embedded-container-adapter/

My first inclination, like Weinan's, was to think that running everything in Wildfly was pretty heavy, but if we just start Wildfly once, that's not so bad.
Right, that's what I meant saying that it depends on how you implement the solution. In practice, we might end up needing more than just a single WFLY instance (perhaps because we need different container configurations for different types of tests), but the number of instances should really be limited (let's say less than 5?).

After all, that's what the TCK does, as well as the new qe TS.
And the JBossWS testsuite ;)

One problem I still have is that, when I'm working on a problem, I MUCH prefer running tests in an embedded container like tjws or Undertow.
Not sure what the preference is based on, but if that's because you don't want to manually start the container, etc... Arquillian does that for you.

I just like the instantaneous startup. For example, I just ran a test in RESTEASY-TEST-WF8, and it took 2.7 seconds to start up Wildfly and another 2.7 seconds to create and deploy the WAR. Better than AS 5 ;-) but still a little annoying.

If you do TS properly you need to start WF just once so I don't see this as a problem.
Starting WF for each test is bad practice.

 I think we can put the tests under Arquillian folder in less maven modules. Then bunch of tests can spin faster with one wildfly instance instead of start wildfly for each. This could the
 the another thing for test and build improvement.
 I am also +1 for use arquillian to adapt containers. Besides easy to switch test container , one more good thing we can get from Arquillian or ShrinkWrap is  we don't have to create a test resource file like web.xml in different place. Write all things in one test looks very  clean and easy to maintain.