Hi,

 

I have included 2 test cases in the patch. If more are needed then just point me to existing test cases and I will make of copy of those for the upgrade part. As you can see the test cases that are included in the patch are also a copies of existing test cases.

 

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

From: rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 5:25 PM
To: Rules Dev List
Subject: Re: [rules-dev] RE: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

Nimesh Muley wrote:

Hi,

 

Yes the patch detects which version and upgrades on the fly (Abrakadabra magic ;-)).

oh right, cool I'll check this out. I've been on conference for the last 3 weeks, so I've got behind on looking at JIRAs, so if it's magic then I should be able to just include it.

 

There is a system parameter (“drools.ruleflow.port”). The code checks for version only when the system parameter is set to true. This was added so that there is no overhead (CPU time) for users who are using rule flows in 5.0 only. Users using the old rule flows in 5.0 and want upgrade must set this parameter to “true”.

 

Main file to be checked for changes is src/main/java/org/drools/compiler/ProcessBuilder.java. The other files are related to cleanup (format as well as code) or test cases.

 

Modifying ProcessBuilder was easier / cleaner to control the upgrade of rule flows instead of ProcessReader. If you feel otherwise then let me know and I will modify it.

 

If you feel more test cases should be added to make this more sturdy then let me know which ones and I can submit the same too.

Don't know how many test cases you have, but more is always good, especially on something with so many different possabilities. Especially for handling bad XML gracefully.

 

Thanks.

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

From: rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:47 PM
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Subject: Re: [rules-dev] RE: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

Nimesh Muley wrote:

Oh ok. I developed it because you mentioned whether it would be possible to plug it in package reader.

 

I think we can close this JIRA as invalid.

The code handles the migration right, does it already hook into the package reader? I wasn't sure, as i haven't read the code yet. Are you saying the patch will detect which version of the XML it is, and upgrade on the fly?

My assumption was that it was just some code to migrate from 4 to 5, but someone still needs to execute that, so it seemed the easiest route was to do this via an eclipse option for now - as hooking into packagebuilder with auto detection was more work and needed more testing, but if you have done this already....


 

In case there is a change of mind later on we already have a patch for it ;-).

see above.


 

Thanks.

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [rules-dev] RE: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

Nimesh Muley wrote:

Hi,

 

I have raised a feature request for this https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-1797 and also submitted a patch (JBRULES-1797.patch.zip) for the same. If there are any changes in the patch kindly let me know.

I believe kris is going to add a feature to eclipse where you can select a ruleflow for it to convert, don't think we are going to go for auto-detection and conversion on the fly with the packagebuilder.

Mark



 

Thanks.

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

From: rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Nimesh Muley
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:08 AM
To: 'rules-dev@lists.jboss.org'
Subject: [rules-dev] RE: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

Hi,

 

By going through the code it seems possible to achieve this by modifying ProcessBuilder.addProcessFromFile. Easiest check would be to see whether the XML contains element called as “process”. Since XML Parsing is internal to the individual releases (4.0 uses XStream and 5.0 uses XMLReader), I am not sure whether we should form a XML document from the reader to check if the process belongs to version 4.0 or compliant.

 

Brute force check would be indexOf (“<process”) >= 0 then it is 5.0 else 4.0 ;-). I am sure there would be better ways than this kind of check.

 

I do not mind taking this further. Due to lack of in depth knowledge about drools, I am not able to decide what the approach should be for checking the version.

 

This would be a really good feature as it would mean that drools 5.0 is backward compliant for rule flows J. And this adds lot of confidence to enterprises.

 

p.s. Since this was now moving towards dev, I have moved the thread to the dev mailing list.

Thanks.

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

From: rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2008 9:37 PM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

You are a star, that saves us a lot of work :) I'm wondering if we can work this into the package reader and some how have it detect whether something is version 4 or 5 and convert first if it's 4, fancy having a look and seeing if that's possible?

Mark

Nimesh Muley wrote:

Hi,

 

I have attached a file for translating rule flows from 4.0 to 5.0. I have tested my flows with the XSL and it works fine. However, the XSLT may not be quite slick or compact as I have touched upon XSLT after a long time. I have covered all the nodes available (ruleSet, start, end, join, split, milestone, action and subProcess).

 

There is one issue in the XSLT. I have not added the xmlns attribute to the process element. Reason is that this attribute appears in child nodes too with empty string, even though it is not mentioned for the child nodes. This attribute is needed in the ‘process’ node because the Eclipse editor for 5.0 ignores the process node if there are more than 2 sub processes in that ruleflow. Am not sure why this is happening but that has been my observation.

 

In case XSLT is not present as an attachment then let me know the location where it can be uploaded.

 

Thanks.

Regards,

- Nimesh

 

From: rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:26 PM
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Compatibility of Rule Flows from 4.0.7 to 5.0.0

 

No they are not compatible, 5.0 has a new ePDL XML language that is human writable. I suggest that somone in the community starts looking into an XSLT to translate them.

Mark
Vikrant Yagnick wrote:

Hi All,

 

I wanted to know if RuleFlows made using the Eclipse 4.0.7 RuleFlow Builder will work with 5.0.0.  When, I try to upload a 4.0.7 ruleflow into Guvnor, I get a NullPointerException and before that the following:

 

Cannot find the declaration of element 'org.drools.ruleflow.core.impl.RuleFlowProcessImpl'.

 

I checked the 5.0.0M1 jars for drools-core, and this class seems to have been removed from there. Also, after installing the 5.0.0 plug-in into Eclipse, my rule-flow nodes have all gone.

 

 

Also, this may be a minor bug but it says(both in the docs and the BRMS Guvnor M1 Release):

Ruleflows allow flow control between rules. The eclipse plugin provides a graphical editor. Upload ruleflow .rf files for inclusion in this package.”:

 

Should the .rf say .rfm ?

 

Cheers,

Vikrant

 


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