well, the ones that is currently exposed is enough for you or do you want something more? <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/28 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We can use both on Karaf.<div><br></div><div>Anyway the question is more for the moment &quot;Which OSGI services would we like to expose on OSGI platform&quot; instead of How to achieve that ?</div>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I agree with you.... Blueprint and CDI has this advantage over DS.<br><br>But I think I never had the necessity to inject beans in many years of development with OSGi. Injecting simple components and services fitted well all my needs. :)  And the best from DS is that it is smart, small and fast.<br>


<br>As Blueprint, CDI and DS uses xml we can provide all. But I don&#39;t know If there is a way to choose only one at runtime... I mean, what could happen in a system where we have both Blueprint and DS active?<div>
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2013/3/28 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div dir="ltr">There is nevertheless one advantage of Aries Blueprint over Declarative Service which is :<div>&quot;<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">Unlike Declarative Services, Blueprint can inject not only OSGi services, but also managed beans, i.e. plain old Java objects. Managed beans are local to the current component and cannot be injected into other components. Each Blueprint-enabled bundle has its own Blueprint context with managed beans and OSGi service references. The contexts of different bundles can interact by injecting services published by another bundle.&quot;</span></div>



</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Great !</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Charles,<br><br>Step one (installation of bundles and its dependencies) seems to be ok  ;) <br><br>[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests ...................... SUCCESS [6.559s]<br>




[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-common ............... SUCCESS [15.887s]<br>
[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-equinox-juno ......... SUCCESS [20.176s]<br>[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-equinox-kepler ....... SUCCESS [17.581s]<br>[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-felix ................ SUCCESS [15.874s]<br>





[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-jbosgi ............... SUCCESS [39.769s]<br>[INFO] drools-osgi-enviroment-tests-knoplerfish .......... SUCCESS [14.839s]<br>[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>





<br>next step is to reuse the existent tests-jars<br><br>cheers,<div><div><br><br>Cristiano<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>





<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think that those packages have been added since JDK 1.7 xxx. Reason why you should deploy the following bundles :<div>





<br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/src/main/filtered-resources/repository/features.xml" target="_blank">https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/src/main/filtered-resources/repository/features.xml</a><br>






</div><div><br></div><div>with these versions </div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/pom.xml" target="_blank">https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/blob/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-features/pom.xml</a> <br>






</div><div><br></div><div>and more specifically 2.2.1 for jaxb-x</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>






<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The packages that I&#39;m aware of until now is:<br>- org.apache.poi.openxml4j.exceptions<br>- org.apache.poi.ss.usermodel (note that poi.jar exports this too)<br>






<br>I&#39;m getting another problem with servicemix bundles related to com.sun.tools.xjc. it seems that there is no bundle exporting com.sun.source.tree that is being required:<br>
<br>ERROR: Bundle org.drools.decisiontables [38] Error starting mvn:org.drools/drools-decisiontables/6.0.0-SNAPSHOT (org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle org.drools.decisiontables [38]: Unable to resolve 38.0: missing requirement [38.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.compiler.compiler) [caused by: Unable to resolve 29.0: missing requirement [29.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.core) [caused by: Unable to resolve 30.0: missing requirement [30.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.tools.xjc) [caused by: Unable to resolve 32.0: missing requirement [32.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.source.tree)]]])<br>







org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Unresolved constraint in bundle org.drools.decisiontables [38]: Unable to resolve 38.0: missing requirement [38.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.compiler.compiler) [caused by: Unable to resolve 29.0: missing requirement [29.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=org.drools.core) [caused by: Unable to resolve 30.0: missing requirement [30.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.tools.xjc) [caused by: Unable to resolve 32.0: missing requirement [32.0] osgi.wiring.package; (osgi.wiring.package=com.sun.source.tree)]]]<br>







<br>I&#39;m using this deps:<br><br>       &lt;dependency&gt;<br>            &lt;groupId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.bundles&lt;/groupId&gt;<br>            &lt;artifactId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jaxb-xjc&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br>







            &lt;version&gt;2.2.6_1&lt;/version&gt;<br>        &lt;/dependency&gt;<br>        &lt;dependency&gt;<br>            &lt;groupId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.bundles&lt;/groupId&gt;<br>            &lt;artifactId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jaxb-impl&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br>







            &lt;version&gt;2.2.6_1&lt;/version&gt;<br>        &lt;/dependency&gt;<br>        &lt;dependency&gt;<br>            &lt;groupId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs&lt;/groupId&gt;<br>            &lt;artifactId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs.jaxb-api-2.2&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br>







            &lt;version&gt;2.2.0&lt;/version&gt;<br>        &lt;/dependency&gt;<br>        &lt;dependency&gt;<br>            &lt;groupId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs&lt;/groupId&gt;<br>            &lt;artifactId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs.activation-api-1.1&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br>







            &lt;version&gt;2.2.0&lt;/version&gt;<br>        &lt;/dependency&gt;<br>        &lt;dependency&gt;<br>            &lt;groupId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs&lt;/groupId&gt;<br>            &lt;artifactId&gt;org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.2&lt;/artifactId&gt;<br>







            &lt;version&gt;2.2.0&lt;/version&gt;<br>        &lt;/dependency&gt;<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>







<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Can you please provide me the list of packages to be exported and I will include also poi-ooxml ?</div>






<div>
<div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>








<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>








<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">1) For Karaf project, we mostly use activator or Aries Blueprint (<a href="http://aries.apache.org/modules/blueprint.html" target="_blank">http://aries.apache.org/modules/blueprint.html</a>). Declarative Service is rather new top of karaf (<a href="http://sully6768.blogspot.be/2012/09/scr-components-with-karaf.html" target="_blank">http://sully6768.blogspot.be/2012/09/scr-components-with-karaf.html</a>)</div>









</blockquote></div><div><br>As a consumer you can still using both blueprint or <span>BundleContext.getService() to reference the services.<br><br>What I found good in both Blueprint and DS is that they ensure the component/services lifecycle and we could still use Configuration Admin with them.<br>









<br>The problem with blueprint is that is not default installed in most distributions while DS is.<br>Is DS installed by default in Karaf? </span> <br> </div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">









<div dir="ltr"><div>
<br></div><div>2) For poi-ooxml, we should use the ServiceMix bundle (<a href="http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.poi/3.9_1/" target="_blank">http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.poi/3.9_1/</a>) until they provide a OSGI bundle of POI.</div>









</div></blockquote></div><div><br>Unfortunately this bundle don&#39;t export the package needed. it wraps the poi.jar but not poi-ooxml. org.apache.poi.ss.usermodel.Workbook.class :(<br> </div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">









<div dir="ltr">
</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>










<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I won&#39;t change that code for while... It is still be there until you decide to move it to the new one. ;)<br><br>Btw, I have two questions:<br>










<br>1)what do you think about to use Declarative Services to register the services instead do it manually at activator ?<br>
<br>2) how are you dealing with poi-ooxml dependency in drools-decisiontables? there is no osgified jar for it...<div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>











<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Christiano,<div><br></div><div>I prefer that first we finalize the OSGI bundles (drools-decisiontables, drools-jpa, drools-jbpm, ...) before changing pax-exam code which is working and also used by Apache Camel/Karaf projects ;-)</div>












<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Charles</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>












<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br><br>I already look at it. The problem is that this tests are using an old version (2.x) of pax-exam and using a karaf specific api too. <br>












That version will be dropped by karaf team soon. see [1] and [2].<br><br>
Btw, Pax-exam was improved a lot in version 3.x.<br><br>[1] - <a href="http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Discuss-Karaf-and-Pax-Exam-3-x-td4028074.html" target="_blank">http://karaf.922171.n3.nabble.com/Discuss-Karaf-and-Pax-Exam-3-x-td4028074.html</a><br>













[2] - <a href="https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXEXAM-503" target="_blank">https://ops4j1.jira.com/browse/PAXEXAM-503</a><br><br>regards,<br><br>Cristiano<div><div><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/3/27 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Christiano,<div><br></div><div>Can you please have a look here as there is already a pax-exam test for karaf (<a href="https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/tree/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-itest" target="_blank">https://github.com/droolsjbpm/droolsjbpm-integration/tree/master/drools-osgi/drools-karaf-itest</a>) ?</div>














<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Charles</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>














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    <div>I&#39;m creating a pax-exam project where I
      will run some test on top of equinox and felix. <br>
      <br>
      After I commit and push it maybe you could add karaf stuffs. so it
      could help us to identify the reason of the error you are talking
      about...<div><div><br>
      <br>
      On 25/03/13 14:19, Charles Moulliard wrote:<br>
    </div></div></div><div><div>
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      <div dir="ltr">There was another error when using singleton :=
        true.</div>
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          Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">well, I
            never seen any error related to singleton attribute at Felix
            or Equinox. <br>
            <br>
            The error you have reported seems to be related to what is
            being done (and not being undone) inside the activator...
            <div>
              <div><br>
                <br>
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                  2013/3/25 Charles Moulliard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ch007m@gmail.com" target="_blank">ch007m@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    <div dir="ltr">Not at all but using singleton :=
                      true option generates error when we do a stop,
                      update start on Apache Karaf. 
                      <div>We never used that property to generate all
                        the bundles that we have in the project Karaf,
                        ServiceMix, Geronimo, ...</div>
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                            at 4:34 PM, Cristiano Gavião <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvgaviao@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvgaviao@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Charles, <br>
                              <br>
                              I saw that you removed singleton:=true in
                              your commit. This is because do you plan
                              to have more than one version of
                              drools/jbpm running at same time?<br>
                              <br>
                              regards,<br>
                              <br>
                              Cristiano
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                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                        <div>Charles,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          I already changed the manifest
                                          generation of kie and other
                                          drools modules. I created some
                                          pull requests for such
                                          changes.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Next thing that I planned to
                                          do this week(Wed) was to
                                          review each Activator, I think
                                          we could improve it... <br>
                                          <br>
                                          regards,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          Cristiano
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                                              On 25/03/13 04:52, Charles
                                              Moulliard wrote:<br>
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                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">Hi,
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>The org.kie.api.osgi.Activator
                                                  class of kie
                                                  project needs the
                                                  class
                                                  ServiceRegistryImpl
                                                  (&amp; Interface
                                                  ServiceRegistry of kie
                                                  internal) to register
                                                  an OSGI Service
                                                  (Interface)</div>
                                                <div> <br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>       
                                                    this.serviceRegistry
                                                    =
                                                    bc.registerService(
ServiceRegistry.class.getName(),</div>
                                                  <div>                 
                                                                       
                                                               
                                                     ServiceRegistryImpl.getInstance(),</div>
                                                  <div>                 
                                                                       
                                                                 new
                                                    Hashtable() );</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>but the maven
                                                  module kie api does
                                                  not have a dependency
                                                  with kie internal  as
                                                  the class
                                                  ServiceRegistry &amp;
                                                  ServiceRegistryImpl
                                                  are part of the module
                                                  kie internal &amp;
                                                  package
                                                  org.kie.internal.utils</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>Questions :</div>
                                                <div>- What are the
                                                  plans regarding to the
                                                  Activator of Kie api
                                                  bundle - what does it
                                                  want to do ?</div>
                                                <div>- Can we add the
                                                  missing dependency in
                                                  kie api project ?</div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>Regards,</div>
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