Ok, so I really simplified this.
I got rid of all my other junk and wanted to see if a modern log4j would
load.

I put in log4j 1.2.16 (Now more snmp, etc.)
I still get the same error.
So I put the the reference to
jboss-jms-api_1.1_spec-1.0.1.Final.jar
which is both m2 and kie repos back in and which does have
javax/jms/MessageListener
and I still get class not found.



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