I'm working for Samsung SDS in Korea as a project leader and in contemplation using Apache ODE and Drools.
When I was googling I saw your mail as below (Plz see bold) then I have a question about integration between Apache ODE and Drools.
I'd like to use Apache ODE as a business flow and Drools as a business rules on my project because I think BPEL is a standard tools representing business flow.
In details I'd like to implement in the way some node in BPEL flow can call Drools business rules.
Would you give me the information about whether and when you're planned to integrate apache ODE into Drools?
Thank you in advance
JongGeuk
Umesh Wankhede wrote:
If you are going to choose a BPEL product, make sure you choose one that supports BPEL 2.0, or you'll be shooting yourself in the foot, Apache ODE is the more complete BPEL 2.0 engine.Mark Proctor wrote:The primary language would be RuleFlow or jPDL, but we are also looking at BPEL support (product requirements driven). So we have to make a choice between jBPM or Drools 5.0. The latter option looks more suitable for our requirement which provides tightly integrated rule support, but lack of BPEL support currently is making the decision tougher.Umesh Wankhede wrote:If you are going to use BPEL I would recommend ODE, jBPM BPEL is not BPEL 2.0, but 1.0, which is very limited. ODE is likely to be the BPEL engine we integrated into Drools.Mark Proctor wrote:So that means I would have to go with jBPM for BPEL support (and losing the advantage of tight rule engine integration provided in Drools). How far would be the BPEL support in Drools in the roadmap?Umesh Wankhede wrote:There is no BPEL product, Drools COULD do BPEL, but we haven't made it do so yet. It is more likely we would look to integrate an existing BPEL product like ODE, as the execution engine is the easy bit, it's all the xml manipulations that are time consuming.HiI am trying to evaluate various features (rules and workflow) of Drools 5.0. What I understand from docs (drools-docs-flow.pdf - page 5) is that the Drools flow engine is based on generic process engine that allows the execution of different process languages like RuleFlow, BPEL, OSWorkflow, etc. Although I am able to do PoC (Proof of Concept) with RuleFlow, there isn't any documentation/samples available for using BPEL as process language. Also I don't find any more information on blogs, etc. If anyone has done something similar, please let me know, or any pointers would help.More importantly though, have a good think on why it is you are using BPEL, as in reality it's generally too low level for end users to use effectively.
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