Thanks everyone for the responses.  Maciej I did in fact try declaring the class within a package and saw similar oddities.  Thanks for the excellent assistance.

Wolfgang, I have filed JIRA JBRULES-3322 for this issue.

https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3322

Thanks again for the assistance everyone.

2011/12/29 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin@gmail.com>
I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what I found:

CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:2082419441:2082419441:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b]

CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100, minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
Object[fact 0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101]

Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function insertDefault which is declared in DRL file
something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth mentioning that I get following result
inside insertDefault:
System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
---> com.sample.SomeDefault

Hope it will help :)




2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin@gmail.com>
Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me if I'm wrong :)


2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin@gmail.com>
It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare' statement. It works ok.


2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey@zenbitz.com>
I guess that is exactly my confusion :)  Why would it be that doing the exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not to fire in the function call case?  The rules are both in the same agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.

It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.

Thanks for any clarity.


On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy@gmail.com> wrote:
Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
Probably that is part of your confusion.


2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey@zenbitz.com>:
> I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working memory
> is segmented when using agenda groups.  I have an agenda-group that has
> focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects being
> inserted:
>
> ksession.insert(objectA);
> ksession.insert(objectB);
> ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>
> I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion.  The first rule
> simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
> exists.  In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS explicitly.
>  However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so when
> I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation is
> created for the first rule but never the second.  Can someone tell me why
> the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>
> THIS WORKS:
>
> declare SomeDefault
>   minValueA : Integer
>   minValueB : Double
>   maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>   agenda-group "Foo"
>   salience 100
>   when
>     $a : ObjectA()
>   then
>     default = new SomeDefault()
>     default.minValueA = 100
>     default.minValueB = 20.0
>     default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>     insert(default)
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
>   agenda-group "Foo"
>   salience 100
>   when
>     $default : SomeDefault()
>   then
>     System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>
> declare SomeDefault
>   minValueA : Integer
>   minValueB : Double
>   maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>   agenda-group "Foo"
>   salience 100
>   when
>     $a : ObjectA()
>   then
>     insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
>   agenda-group "Foo"
>   salience 90
>   when
>     $default : SomeDefault()
>   then
>     System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>   SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>   default.setMinValueA(100);
>   default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>   default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>   workingMemory.insert(default);
> }
>
> In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then drools
> returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.  However in
> the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect.  I am guessing this
> is a simple misunderstanding on my part.  Any assistance in understanding
> why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MiKey
>
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