Mark,This is a different discussion than the topic, which is about perm gen leaks. Please start new threads, for new topics.
Thanks for your reply.
If you are a paying customer, best to use the customer portal. Questions are tracked under SLA, and help shape product updates.
We have been testing against 5.5.0.Final and we faced some problems .
One of the problem was that we had a quick fix to mvel component from redhat guys (with their good will )
to one of the critical concurrency issues we faced .But it seems that fix is not part of these community releases and there has been changes to mvel after that change.we don’t do maintenance releases in community, i.e. no 5.4.1.
Is there a way that we can make the same permgen fix to the 5.4.0.Final codebase?.
OrThe fix will be in the next product patch release, check with the customer portal for details.
Is this possible to get the concurrency fix these newer versions?.
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From: Mark Proctor <mproctor@codehaus.org> To: Rules Users List <rules-users@lists.jboss.org> Date: 15/01/2014 21:05 Subject: Re: [rules-users] permgen leak Sent by: rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
why not just update to 5.6, it’s fixed there.
http://downloads.jboss.org/drools/release/5.6.0.Final/
You can specify dialect at the top of the drl file, to be applied to all rules in that file. But that’s about it.
Mark
On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:51, adarsh.chaini@hsbcib.com wrote:
Is this possible to set everything to MVEL Dialect as we are using JavaDialect in all our rules.
We had this few times before and we managed to avoid it with usage of CMSClassUnlaoadingEnabled .
But this has again comeback recently because the rate at which the classes are produced with load,CMS is unable to collect the permgen space at same rate so it trips
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From: Mark Proctor <mproctor@codehaus.org> To: Rules Users List <rules-users@lists.jboss.org> Date: 15/01/2014 18:27 Subject: Re: [rules-users] permgen leak Sent by: rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
You can try setting everything to the MVEL dialect, and also forcing MVEL to reflection via the system property (turning off jit)
http://mvel.codehaus.org/Disabling+the+JIT+Compiler
Mark
On 15 Jan 2014, at 18:23, adarsh.chaini@hsbcib.com wrote:
Hi Mark/Davide
Is there a work around to this problem in 5.4?.
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From: Mark Proctor <mproctor@codehaus.org> To: Rules Users List <rules-users@lists.jboss.org> Date: 08/01/2014 04:46 Subject: Re: [rules-users] permgen leak Sent by: rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org
For anyone interested. The commit involves addressing two needs.
1) Enforcing MVEL reflection mode throughout - MVEL ASM optimiser can NEVER be used for anything (it doesn’t add much value anyway).
2) Avoiding giving the template system the root class loader(which we use for dynamic stuff), as those templates are statically cached.
https://github.com/sotty/drools/commit/1b75d4785861e72338cc5ea1280610a7937be017
Mark
On 8 Jan 2014, at 00:53, Mark Proctor <mproctor@codehaus.org> wrote:
> The root of the perm gen leak has now be solved, thanks to some heroic work by community developer Davide Sottara.
>
> This is just in time for the 5.6 release going out this week. You will not need to use the kbase.dispose() work around.
>
> Mark
> On 6 Jan 2014, at 20:50, Mark Proctor <mproctor@codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> The 5.6 approach should be considered a work around, not a fix. Somewhere a ref is being held, that shouldn’t be - we just haven’t found it yet.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 19:17, Davide Sottara <dsotty@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have run pmander's tests, and reported in a previous email.
>>> The leak in 5.x is due to the nature of the composite classloader, and
>>> dispose()
>>> forces the memory to be released. I don't remember if that fix was in
>>> 5.6.CR1
>>> (probably not), so you may have to try 5.6.0-SNAPSHOT or wait for the
>>> end of the week.
>>> 6.x does not suffer from the same problem, but has a different issue -
>>> no way
>>> to unload kie modules once they are cached - which Mario has been
>>> working on.
>>> In either case, pmander's test works fine in both 5.6.x and 6.x after
>>> these fixes
>>> Davide
>>>
>>> On 01/06/2014 07:56 PM, Mark Proctor wrote:
>>>> I’ve been told 5.6 will be released this week. This is because the JCR2GIT migration tool, in 5.6 is needed for our 6.0 product.
>>>>
>>>> Davide's current kbase.dispose() method, on the concrete class, should just be considered a work around for the problem. Unless this is fixed by someone in the community, I don’t think any core developers will have time to address this. At least not for 5.x; we’ll continue to look into it for 6.x.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Jan 2014, at 16:14, brachi <brachi.w@sapiens.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> see previous messages, pmander attached a unit test
>>>>>
>>>>>
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