<br>   Sorry for the short answer... busy day.<br><br>   The main problem with agenda filter is that it is defined in application code and so creates a dependency in the rules from the application code. So, you break one of the biggest advantages of rules that is to have a separate lifecycle for rules. There are other small things too, but that is IMO the most limiting. I use agenda filters only for unit testing and debugging.<br>
<br>   My preferred approach is to model the rules in a way that they only fire when they should fire, using ruleflow, agenda-groups and other &quot;rule features&quot; as opposed to have the application messing with the agenda.<br>
<br>   []s<br>   Edson<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/6/25 Chris Richmond <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:crichmond@referentia.com">crichmond@referentia.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">











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<p><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Ok…well when the recognized expert says
something is not their preferred approach, it begs the question …what is your
preferred approach for handling this?</span></font></p>

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<p><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Thanks,</span></font></p>

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Chris</span></font></p>

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<p><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
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Behalf Of </span></b>Edson Tirelli<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:30
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [rules-users] firing
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   Chris,<br>
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   Although not my preferred approach, you can use agenda filters as
a parameter to fireAllRules().<br>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">2009/6/24 Chris Richmond &lt;<a href="mailto:crichmond@referentia.com" target="_blank">crichmond@referentia.com</a>&gt;</span></font></p>

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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hello,</span></font></p>

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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I
thought I had encountered a sample of performing a:</span></font></p>

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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">session.fireAllRules();</span></font></p>

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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">except
on explicit rules or at least on a specific agenda group…but I cannot seem to
locate that in the API for sessions….did I miss something or did I imagine
something before?</span></font></p>

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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks,</span></font></p>

<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Chris</span></font></p>

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