thanks a lot!

I'm trying to setup a decision service, _without_ having to code in java. 

I'm kind of swamped at the moment in other  stuff but will get back to this ASAP and report back.

Thanks again,
Rubén


De: "Jervisliu" <jliu@redhat.com>
Para: "Rules Users List" <rules-users@lists.jboss.org>
Enviados: Lunes, 17 de Mayo 2010 1:25:32
Asunto: Re: [rules-users] Drools5 in tomcat 5

Examples below shows how to use drools Camel integration. With Camel
integration, you can host drools rule engine as a Camel service. The
service can be based on Web services, REST, JMS or whatever capabilities
Camel offers.
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/trunk/drools-pipeline/drools-camel/src/test/java/org/drools/camel/component

You can also use Drools pipeline to expose a drools rule engine as
service. For example, example below is exposing Drools through JMS:
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/trunk/drools-pipeline/drools-messenger-jms/src/test/java/org/drools/runtime/pipeline/impl/SimpleJmsMessengerTest.java

If you do a google search, you can also find some nice docs on how to
use drools-pipeline to expose drools engine as web services etc.

Hope this helps,
Jervis


Rubén Marrero wrote:
> Oh!
>
> I'm tempted to ask _why_ did anyone think that having a great web
> interface where you can create, test, store & version (I would think
> that at least exposing and securing) business tulers simply should
> fall short of _executing_ said rules?  If Guvnor (or some other
> component, I'm learning here) could help me outsource my business
> rules, I could use in no matter what platform/ language. All the java
> coders could embed it and the rest of us could just execute it.
>
> But I won't ask :)
>
> Instead let me rephrase my original question. What's the best way to
> setup a remote server, that can receive my data, go through the rules,
> and return a response? That does not involve java coding? drools-server?
>
> Thanks,
> Rubén
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *De: *"Esteban Aliverti" <esteban.aliverti@gmail.com>
> *Para: *"Rules Users List" <rules-users@lists.jboss.org>
> *CC: *"Diego Fabian Lopez Ruiz" <diego@lingo.mx>
> *Enviados: *Viernes, 14 de Mayo 2010 12:09:35
> *Asunto: *Re: [rules-users] Drools5 in tomcat 5
>
> Bad news! Guvnor doesn't execute the rules! It only acts as a
> repository! You can create your rules, test your rules and versioning
> them too, but if you want to execute them in a real business scenario,
> you have to code it. I know Drools already has some modules to do what
> you are trying to achieve, they are drools-pipeline (Which can use
> camel) or even drools-server (which is a simple servlet that executes
> commands). Unfortunately I'm not an expert on those modules, but you
> can always ask here for help.
>
> Best,
>
> 2010/5/14 Rubén Marrero <ruben@lingo.mx <mailto:ruben@lingo.mx>>
>
>     The idea is to use Guvnor as a REST-accessible BRMS.
>
>     We'll design, edit, test rules in guvnor, then execute them from
>     the PHP web app in the background (with cURL or something ) or
>     maybe we'll use proper webservices, as long as we can keep thing
>     simple.
>
>     Since we are already using tomcat 5 as our reporting endpoint,
>     we'd like to just add the guvnor as a web app, as long as guvnor
>     can execute the rules we setup in the nice web interface and
>     respond with a json package to a REST json request.
>
>     Guvnor _does_ execute rules, right? :-)
>
>     I'll try removing the jars you mention and then report back.
>
>     Thx,
>     Rubén
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *De: *"Esteban Aliverti" <esteban.aliverti@gmail.com
>     <mailto:esteban.aliverti@gmail.com>>
>     *Para: *"Rules Users List" <rules-users@lists.jboss.org
>     <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>>
>     *Enviados: *Viernes, 14 de Mayo 2010 6:49:53
>     *Asunto: *Re: [rules-users] Drools5 in tomcat 5
>
>
>     I didn't test Guvnor in Tomcat 5, but I did it in Tomcat 6. The
>     only thing you need to do is to remove el-ri-xxx.jar and
>     el-api-xxx.jar from Guvnors libraries (open the war file, browse
>     to WEB-INF/lib and remove the files). This is because Tomcat
>     already provides this libraries. That is the only thing I have to
>     do when I want to use Guvnor deployed in a Tomcat.
>     And remember that Drools is just a framework (a bunch of jars if
>     you want), so you can use it everywhere: console app, desktop app,
>     web app. Guvnor is a BRMS that you can use to create your rules,
>     manage their life cycle and set as main repository (You can do
>     more things too). It is important to make this distinction, maybe
>     you just want to use drools expert/flow/fusion and not Guvnor.
>
>     Best,  
>
>     2010/5/14 Rubén Marrero <ruben@lingo.mx <mailto:ruben@lingo.mx>>
>
>         Hi all:
>
>         I want to add drools to a php application. Currently we are
>         using Tomcat 5 to execute BIRT reports and works great.
>
>         We want to keep using Tomcat (this version in particular) and
>         just drop the Drools WAR so to disturb as little as possible
>         our current setup.
>
>         Is Tomcat 5 a supported platform to run Drools 5? any pointers
>         to current docs?
>
>         Thanks in advance,
>         Rubén
>
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