Arbi,<br><br>Not to say that you don&#39;t have some points which are worth considering, but this (weld-dev, seam-dev) really isn&#39;t the right place for discussion about product offerings. This would be more appropriate on the forums or even on the more general JBoss forums where people actually have a say in where these stacks are defined. Because as you pointed out, this has nothing to do with Seam.<br>
<br>Thanks for understanding.<br><br>-Dan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Arbi Sookazian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:asookazian@gmail.com">asookazian@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">As if EE6 wasn&#39;t novel and confusing enough with the change of names like Web Beans to CDI, EJB Lite and new web/full profiles concept, etc.  Now we have some presumably new product offerings from JBoss:<br>
<br><a href="http://www.jboss.com/pdf/JBbyRH_WFK_Datasheet.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.jboss.com/pdf/JBbyRH_WFK_Datasheet.pdf</a><br>
<br>This one comes from out of nowhere: GWT, RichFaces, Struts, Spring, but no Seam.  No Seam.  And I thought that RichFaces was an AJAX component library for JSF.  But no mention of JSF in the datasheet.  Fantastic.<br>
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Oh but wait....<br><br>&quot;Along with leading JBoss technologies Hibernate and Seam,<br>JBoss Web Framework Kit will be included in Red Hat Java<br>Enterprise Edition application server solutions, JBoss<br>Enterprise Application Platform and JBoss Enterprise Web<br>

Platform to provide a complete, integrated environment<br>that supports any type of Java application. For deployments<br>that use the Apache Tomcat component of JBoss<br>Enterprise Web Server, JBoss Web Framework Kit can be<br>

easily added to help round out any lightweight Java application<br>architecture.&quot;<br><br>I thought EJB Lite and web profile in EE6 was &quot;lightweight&quot;, no?  Or not &quot;light&quot; enough?  Because Tomcat starts up so fast.<br>

<br>So is JBoss/Redhat trying to gobble up some of SpringSource&#39;s customers and market share and thus boost revenue?<br><br>Seam can integrate with Spring as was shown in SiA book.  So why isn&#39;t Seam included in this new JBoss WFK?<br>

<br>And does Redhat JEE app server mean JBoss 6 AS?  And if yes, does that mean JBoss 6 includes this WFK?  Is it available in the current AS 6.0.0.M1 download?<br><br>
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