I for one agree, it should not just be up to seam contributers / redhat folk to build the seam website, I think that it should be pushed out to the community that support it. I for one think that seam needs to maintain it's own website only because people that want to use seam or are investigating migration to seam will see the site as a showcase.
The community around seam are your friends; let them help and seam will end up better for it...
I am also quite willing to contribute where time allows!
On , Tiago Reis <tiago.reis@cardmobili.com> wrote:
> Dan I understand your perspective, and I agree that improving the
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> But something needs to be done, and I believe that if we can make the
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> This could be a good way to promote community involvement in SEAM, at
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> least it would give a lot of people a little of experience on working
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> Either way, moving or not moving what I really want is a better
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> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Dan Allen dan.j.allen@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Tiago Reis tiago.reis@cardmobili.com>
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> >> Hi,
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> >> As a SEAM user I can tell that I really don't like the current website.
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> >> Its hard to navigate, hard to find information, hard to keep track of my
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> >> threads in the forum, timeout time is too short, and some other things.
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> >> If moving allows for a better experience, I'm all for it. But if we can
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> >> improve the current web site in order to fix most of the issues that the
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> >> community complains I'm also good with that.
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> >> If we keep on the current site, why not try to promote more actively that
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> >> the community helps improving it? Put a link on the first page, pointing to
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> >> the most urgent issues on the site. I would love to help, but to be honest I
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> >> don't know where to start. I bet that there are more people in my position.
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> > Tiago, I see what your saying that getting the community involved with
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> > improving the website would be in the spirit of open source development. And
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> > if we were building collaborative software, that might be a good way
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> > to continuously enhance it. But that's the trouble. We are building an
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> > integration framework, so working on the website is not really the best use
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> > of the resources we have. Plus, you have to think about the fact that if we
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> > change the software, we need to involve QA, both to ensure it doesn't break
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> > and to ensure the performance is acceptable. Then there is someone that
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> > needs to upgrade it smoothly. So it's a fair amount of work.
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> > What would be better is to have contributors fix bugs or add enhancements to
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> > Seam itself. For sure, we want to give you the steps to get started, but in
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> > working on Seam, not the website. As for the wiki as an example Seam
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> > application, I think we could do a better job with more focused examples
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> > that demonstrate specific features or that apply to different business
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> > I'll also add that we can request improvements in the software that runs
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> > JBoss Community. It's powered by Jive SBS (social business software), and
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> > they are continuously adding or refining features. So what is there today
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> > isn't all there ever will be. And even that software has an extension API,
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> > so you could contribute enhancements, though I'm not sure of the specifics
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> > at this point. I'd have to ask Mark. But hopefully you will be interested in
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> > helping out with Seam instead ;)
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> > -Dan
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> > Dan Allen
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> > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
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> > Registered Linux User #231597
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> > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen
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