Gavin, Pete,

Thanks for the feedback on JMS.  I'll look for your email of the spec draft from 20090520.  I plan to begin work on this 1 July after I return from Turkey and Boston.

- Jordan

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir@redhat.com> wrote:
Ok, Dan, please write up whatever you came up with. Thanks Jason :-)

On 11 Jun 2010, at 18:57, Jason Porter wrote:

> In the meeting on IRC yesterday we spoke at length about the CRUD
> framework, I don't know if that discussion was written down anywhere
> or put up on the wiki.  I know Dan Allen pretty much lead the
> conversation.
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:44, Gavin King <gavin.king@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for writing up this stuff, Pete.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> A series of notes from the review Gavin and I did of the work so far on Seam 3 and what needs to be done.
>>>
>>> Faces
>>> --------
>>>
>>> * Attaching a FormValidator would work better if we attached by form id. For example:
>>>
>>> <h:form id="locationForm">
>>>   ...
>>> </h:form>
>>>
>>> @FacesValidator("locationForm")
>>> public class LocationValidator implements Validator {
>>>   ...
>>> }
>>>
>>> would automatically cause this validator to be used.
>>>
>>> * We need a pages.xml replacement still. Gavin posted to seam-dev about an enum-based navigation system called "Replacing pages.xml" on 29th Feb 2010. The concept here is pretty elegant and well proven (e.g. Wicket).
>>>
>>> * Page fragment caching
>>>
>>> * URL Rewriting
>>>
>>> * conversationId tag
>>>
>>> * object/entity converter
>>>
>>> * review how many of the ancillary support tags (e.g. label) actually made it into JSF.
>>>
>>> * support for Seam Managed Transactions
>>>
>>> Lincoln - please can you make sure we have the relevant JIRAs to track these and post for trackback.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Servlet
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> All looks good.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Seam XML
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * CDI annotations need to come from the CDI namespace, not the Seam namespace. For example:
>>>
>>>   <s:Qualifier /> or <s:Specializes /> -> <cdi:Qualifier /> or <cdi:Specializes />
>>>
>>> * A few deviations from the original spec, we should double check each one.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, looking great. Stuart, will you make sure we have a JIRA for both of these, and post for trackback.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> i8ln
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * Currently, all the examples show using XML to set up the locales and default system locale. Need some examples showing how to set this in Java (does this exist? probably use the same approach as for setting the client locale - events)
>>> * Approach of treating messages like a logger is good
>>> * Resource bundle handling is wrong, it produces far to strong coupling between specifying the key and specifying which method to log (bundle key specification is totally orthognal to actual logging call)
>>> * In general, rewrite the messages API along the lines of JBoss Logging 3 - I will take the lead on this. This will then be totally consistent with our logging approach once we switch from slf4j to JBoss Logging 3.
>>>
>>> Ken, can you make sure there are JIRAs and post for trackback
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> WeldX
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * Support for @Introduces
>>> * Bean declaration at constructor level
>>>
>>> I will create JIRAs and post for trackback. Stuart, are you interested in working on some of this?
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Persistence
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * Currently languishing. I will take the lead.
>>> * Make sure it contains @TransactionScoped
>>> * Support for SMPC
>>> * Support for persistence and TX outside Java EE
>>> * Hibernate search support
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> CRUD framework
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> * Gavin will jot down some notes in a blog to get this started.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> Compatibility
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * Target is Seam 3.1
>>> * Conversion tool may be useful, but we need a bridge
>>> * If Seam 2 is present, may have to disable Seam 3 modules
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>> JMS
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> * Change back to original design from spec draft from 20090520 where we use the producer field pattern to provide access JMS artifacts (I will follow up with a copy). This is much more flexible, as it allows the use of @Alternative etc.
>>> * Routing of events - change back to original design from spec draft (as above) where we generate proxies for relevant interfaces with @Observes:
>>>
>>> interface JMSMapping {
>>>
>>>   void myMapping(@Observes @SomeQualifier SomeType type, @MyTopic Topic topic);
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> and support the use of @Alternative on this to enable disable/disable it.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Security
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> * Review held back until more details emerge
>>>
>>>
>>> Other modules we didn't discuss in any detail, but include: Remoting, jBPM, Drools, seam-gen
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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