We definitely want to include the getting started guide in the reference docs.

On 02/09/11 13:54, Jason Porter wrote:
Could we do the same thing for the getting started guide as well?

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 21:51, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak@redhat.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's a good idea.  Do you have plans to provide documentation as part of the Forge download?  I'm thinking of the users who might have no/limited connectivity who won't be able to access the Forge docs online.  Also, how does confluence work in conjunction with our documentation team?  From my understanding all their tools for translating etc are based on Publican/Docbook.


On 02/09/11 13:48, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
Actually, maybe the best thing to do is just to add a new section to the Seam umbrella doc, with an HTML link to the forge confluence space?

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok. If you include beta1, the artifact for dist is:

org.jboss.forge:forge-modules:1.0.0.Beta1

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On Sep 1, 2011 7:52 PM, "Shane Bryzak" <sbryzak@redhat.com> wrote:
> Yep, I planned on extracting it in the forge folder.
>
> On 02/09/11 09:43, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>>
>> Also, if forge is unzipped. It should be done so in its own subfolder.
>>
>> Ill try to catch you online tonight and make sure you've got the right
>> artifact. (it moved temporarily during the jboss modules transition.
>>
>> --
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>> http://ocpsoft.com
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>>
>> On Sep 1, 2011 7:41 PM, "Lincoln Baxter, III" <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com
>> <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Well. The forge distribution doesn't contain docs either. They are
>> purely
>> > online at this point. So I think just don't worry about it. This
>> confluence
>> > thing is a bit of a pain in that regard.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Lincoln Baxter's Droid
>> > http://ocpsoft.com
>> > "Keep it Simple"
>> > On Sep 1, 2011 6:05 PM, "Shane Bryzak" <sbryzak@redhat.com
>> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>> wrote:
>> >> Unless an export could be automated as part of the build process, I
>> >> don't think that's a good idea. How about we just include the Forge
>> >> distribution extracted inside the Seam distribution? The documentation
>> >> won't be combined with the main Seam docs, but as long as it's in the
>> >> Forge distribution then a user should be able to find it without too
>> >> much effort.
>> >>
>> >> On 02/09/11 01:22, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not really sure how to do this, then. There are no sources since
>> >>> the docs are in confluence.
>> >>>
>> >>> I suppose an export could work?
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Lincoln Baxter's Droid
>> >>> http://ocpsoft.com
>> >>> "Keep it Simple"
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 31, 2011 5:09 PM, "Shane Bryzak" <sbryzak@redhat.com
>> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>
>> >>> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>>> wrote:
>> >>> > The source artifact for the Forge docs were being pulled in like
>> this:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > <dependency>
>> >>> > <groupId>org.jboss.seam.forge</groupId>
>> >>> > <artifactId>forge-reference-guide</artifactId>
>> >>> > <version>1.0.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
>> >>> > <classifier>sources</classifier>
>> >>> > <type>jar</type>
>> >>> > </dependency>
>> >>> >
>> >>> > When I update the version to 1.0.0.Beta1, it can't find the source -
>> >>> was
>> >>> > the Beta1 source artifact published to Maven?
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 01/09/11 03:02, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>> >>> >> https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/SEAMFORGE/Home
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III
>> >>> >> <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>>
>> >>> <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>
>> <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Just checking - the Forge docs are no longer in SVN / are in
>> >>> >> Confluence; have you taken this into account?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Also, the which distribution are you including? You could choose
>> >>> >> either Beta1 or the latest SNAPSHOT (which is actually in a new
>> >>> >> location - moved back to the original
>> >>> >> org.jboss.forge:forge-distribution - though it looks like the
>> >>> >> build hasn't deployed artifacts in a little while - looking in to
>> >>> >> that)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ~Lincoln
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Shane Bryzak
>> <sbryzak@redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>
>> >>> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>>
>> >>> >> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>
>> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>>>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Module leads,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Can you please review the list below and confirm that the
>> >>> >> documentation
>> >>> >> chapters are correct for your module. Also, I would like
>> >>> >> everyone to
>> >>> >> take a moment to review the module documentation guidelines,
>> >>> >> as there
>> >>> >> were a number of breakages in the bundled documentation build
>> >>> >> because
>> >>> >> the guidelines weren't adhered to, particularly in the new
>> >>> >> modules for
>> >>> >> Seam 3.1:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 1) Always prefix the filenames of your documentation chapters
>> >>> >> with the
>> >>> >> name of your module. E.g. security-authentication.xml,
>> >>> >> security-authorization.xml, etc.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 2) Whenever you assign an ID to a docbook element, such as a
>> >>> >> <chapter>
>> >>> >> or <section>, ALWAYS prefix the id with your module name. For
>> >>> >> example,
>> >>> >> <chapter id="security-introduction"> or <section
>> >>> >> id="security-getting-started">. As all of the chapters for
>> >>> >> all modules
>> >>> >> are combined when building the bundled documentation, all IDs
>> >>> >> must be
>> >>> >> unique. This is a particularly time consuming problem to fix
>> >>> >> because
>> >>> >> the error output from the Maven docbook plugin doesn't tell
>> >>> >> you which
>> >>> >> files are the problem ones.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 3) When adding, renaming or deleting a chapter of your
>> >>> >> documentation,
>> >>> >> please notify me of the changes so that I can update
>> >>> >> bundled_master.xml. This file must be manually kept up to
>> >>> >> date whenever
>> >>> >> any documentation changes are made.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Thanks,
>> >>> >> Shane
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <?xml version='1.0' encoding="utf-8"?>
>> >>> >> <!DOCTYPE book PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.5//EN"
>> >>> >> "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.5/docbookx.dtd" [ ]>
>> >>> >> <book lang="en" xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude">
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <toc />
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam 3</title>
>> >>> >> <subtitle>Bundled Reference Guide</subtitle>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="bundled_credits.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="bundled_intro.xml"/>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Forge</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="forge-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="forge-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="forge-creating-basic-webapp.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="forge-plugin-dev.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Solder</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-preface.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-gettingstarted.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-programmingmodel.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-annotationliterals.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-elextensions.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-resourceloading.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-logging.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-typeutilities.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-beanmanagerprovider.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-beanutilities.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-properties.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-unwraps.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-defaultbeans.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-genericbeans.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="solder-servicehandler.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Configuration</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="config-introduction.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="config-xml-provider.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Persistence</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="persistence-general.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Transaction</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="transaction-general.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Servlet</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-introduction.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-installation.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-events.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-injectable_refs.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-exception_handling.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="servlet-beanmanager.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Security</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="security-introduction.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="security-authentication.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="security-identitymanagement.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="security-authentication-external.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="security-authorization.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam International</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="international-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="international-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="international-locales.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="international-timezones.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="international-messages.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Faces</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-events.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-scopes.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-messages.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-artifacts.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="faces-components.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Catch</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-introduction.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-installation.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-client_usage.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-advanced_usage.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-integration.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="catch-glossary.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Reports</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="reports-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="reports-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="reports-usage.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Remoting</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="remoting-general.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="remoting-model.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="remoting-validation.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam REST</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-exception-mapping.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-validation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-templating.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-client.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="rest-dependencies.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam JCR</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jcr-introduction.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jcr-modeshape.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jcr-jackrabbit.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jcr-event-mapping.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jcr-ocm.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam JMS</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-intro.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-resource-injection.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-messaging.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-routing.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="jms-mapping-interfaces.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Validation</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="validation-introduction.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="validation-installation.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="validation-dependency-injection.xml"/>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="validation-method-validation.xml"/>
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> <part>
>> >>> >> <title>Seam Wicket</title>
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="wicket-preface.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="wicket-installation.xml" />
>> >>> >> <xi:include href="wicket-features.xml" />
>> >>> >> </part>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> </book>
>> >>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>>
>> >>> <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>
>> <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>
>> >>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Lincoln Baxter, III
>> >>> >> http://ocpsoft.com
>> >>> >> http://scrumshark.com
>> >>> >> "Keep it Simple"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> --
>> >>> >> Lincoln Baxter, III
>> >>> >> http://ocpsoft.com
>> >>> >> http://scrumshark.com
>> >>> >> "Keep it Simple"
>> >>> >
>> >>
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