They're actually a fundamental part of the identity model (see [1]). I
have no real problem with the principle of removing the String versions
of createGroup() (we would also have to do the same to createRole() for
consistency) and in fact it would provide some additional advantages.
For example, being able to set a Group to being disabled at creation
time, setting attribute values, etc. My only concern is from a coding
"correctness" point of view, and I guess is centered around the creation
date being automatically set (or potentially overridden) on the Group
instance that's passed to createGroup(). It's probably not an important
concern though, and I'm happy to concede on this one which would mean we
end up with the following methods (replacing all existing createGroup()
and createRole() methods):
void createGroup(Group group);
void createRole(Role role);
[1]
Aren't those implementation details though?
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak(a)redhat.com
<mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 11/08/2012 04:08 AM, Jason Porter wrote:
> Replies inline
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:54 AM, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:sbryzak@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> I spent some time reviewing the IdentityManager API today to
> identify
> any redundancies and also locate any holes where we might not
> properly
> support required features, as well as a general "sanity"
> check to ensure
> that what we're exposing via this API makes sense and is
> intuitive for
> consumers. As Anil has pointed out already, our short term
> priority for
> the project is to stabilize the API - this is extremely
> important as
> PicketLink will provide the security foundation for many other
> projects. With that in mind I'd like to strongly encourage
> everyone
> with a stake in this to carefully review the API and provide
> feedback,
> as once we release it it will be essentially set in stone.
>
> To try and avoid a wall of text (and make this post easier to
> reply to),
> I'm going to break this post up into sub-sections, one for
> each feature
> group. For each section, I'll include the API as it
> currently exists,
> followed by a brief summary of my thoughts and any
> recommendations I may
> have - this is especially where I want to hear any feedback
> indicating
> whether you agree or disagree with my assessment. Let's
> start with the
> user-related methods:
>
> User management
> -------------------------
>
> User createUser(String name);
>
> void createUser(User user);
>
> void removeUser(User user);
>
> void removeUser(String name);
>
> User getUser(String name);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. I'm wondering if we should remove the createUser(String)
> method and
> just have createUser(User). This would make sense in a way
> because I
> can't think of many use cases where you might want to create
> a User with
> just a username and not any of the other typical information
> (such as
> first name, last name, e-mail address, etc). Creating a User via
> createUser(String) when you actually want to set the other
> details after
> the initial User creation is also horribly inefficient, requiring
> multiple round trips to the database (or whatever identity
> store backend
> you use). To add to that, the actual parameter name is a little
> unintuitive - "name" could refer to any number of things - is
> it the
> username or the user's actual name that you need to provide
> here? My +1
> goes to removing createUser(String).
>
>
> I like removing the strings. For most of the rest of this API we
> have a very type safe idea here. Maybe I'm thinking a little
> overboard on things, but I really like the idea of having
> wrappers around things (simple wrappers for our API so people
> could implement an interface or use a base class or something to
> be able to interact with our API but still easily get to the
> information they need).
>
> 2. Similar to point 1), having two removeUser() methods seems
> equally
> redundant. The User object that needs to be provided to the
> removeUser(User) method can be easily looked up by calling
> getUser(), as
> per this example:
>
> identityManager.removeUser(identityManager.getUser("jsmith"));
>
>
> +1
>
>
> 3. As I also pointed out in point 1), the "name" parameter is
> a little
> unintuitive. In regard to the getUser() method I think we
> should rename
> the "name" parameter to "username" just so it's
perfectly
> clear what the
> method expects.
>
>
> +1
>
> 4. We don't currently have any way to update User details. I
> recommend
> that we add an updateUser() method as follows:
>
> void updateUser(User user);
>
>
> I like this idea. I've seen on a few sites where you start with a
> basic username and password, then your confirmation is to
> complete their identity for yourself, so it's not completely out
> there that people wouldn't do this.
>
> This will allow User details such as their first and last
> name, e-mail
> address etc to be updated without having to delete and
> re-create the
> User. Extending on this a little further, I'm wondering if
> we should
> think about adding an audit API that logs these changes.
> Perhaps it's
> something to think about for a later release.
>
> Group management
> --------------------------
>
> Group createGroup(String id);
>
> Group createGroup(String id, Group parent);
>
> Group createGroup(String id, String parent);
>
> void removeGroup(Group group);
>
> void removeGroup(String groupId);
>
> Group getGroup(String groupId);
>
> Group getGroup(String groupId, Group parent);
>
> void addToGroup(IdentityType identityType, Group group);
>
> void removeFromGroup(IdentityType identityType, Group
> group);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. I think there is a little bit of ambiguity here in regard
> to the
> differences between a Group's ID and name. To assist in
> understanding
> the differences, here's the JavaDoc pasted from the Group
> interface:
>
> /**
> * Groups are stored in tree hierarchy and therefore ID
> represents
> a path. ID string always begins with "/" element that
> * represents root of the tree
> * <p/>
> * Example: Valid IDs are "/acme/departments/marketing",
> "/security/administrator" or "/administrator". Where
"acme",
> * "departments", "marketing", "security"
and
> "administrator" are
> group names.
> *
> * @return Group Id in String representation.
> */
> String getId();
>
> /**
> * Group name is unique identifier in specific group
> tree branch.
> For example group with id "/acme/departments/marketing"
> * will have name "marketing" and parent group of id
> "/acme/departments"
> *
> * @return name
> */
> String getName();
>
> Taking the above JavaDoc into account, it seems that where we are
> specifying "id" as a method parameter we should be specifying
> "name"
> instead. If we are indeed providing a "fully qualified" path
> to the
> createGroup() method, then there is no need to also specify
> the parent
> as it can be easily derived from the path. More on this in the
> following points.
>
> 2. We currently have three createGroup() methods for creating
> a new
> Group. I think we should remove the (String, String)
> variant, as the
> parent parameter is ambiguous (is it the parent's ID or name
> we need to
> specify here?), and rename the "id" parameter of the (String,
> Group)
> variant to "name", leaving us with the following:
>
> Group createGroup(String id);
>
> Group createGroup(String name, Group parent);
>
> This then gives us two ways of creating a group. We can
> either specify
> the fully qualified group ID:
>
> Group employees = identityManager.createGroup("/employees");
>
> Or we can specify a subgroup name and parent Group:
>
> Group managers = identityManager.createGroup("managers",
> employees);
>
> We can also use this second form to create a "root" group by just
> specifying null for the parent:
>
> Group admins = identityManager.createGroup("admins", null);
>
>
> I mentioned this earlier, but I don't see why we need the
> Strings. We could simply use Group and have a basic constructor
> that would take a String for the name and possibly another one
> with a String and a parent group.
My only reservation here is that the createGroup() method (this is
true of createRole() also) sets some additional state during Group
(or Role) creation, such as the created date and enabled status.
I'm not a big fan of mutating the object that's passed in like
this, which is why I kept the String variants of these methods, as
a Group (and Role also) is little more than its name. Of course,
User breaks this rule but I see it as being an exception as it
requires a whole bunch of extended information beyond just the
username itself. I could make this clearer with an example if it
helps.
>
> 3. For the removeGroup() methods, I think what we have is fine.
>
> 4. For the getGroup() methods, I'm happy with the first one
> (String
> groupId) but I think the second one (String groupId, Group
> parent) needs
> to be (String name, Group parent) instead. The first method
> would be
> used when the fully qualified group ID is known, and the
> second one
> would be used when you already have the parent Group and know
> the name
> of the subgroup.
>
> 5. The addToGroup() and removeFromGroup() methods seem fine
> to me.
>
> 6. One thing we don't have is a method to test whether an
> IdentityType
> is a member of a Group. I suggest we add another method to
> support this:
>
> boolean inGroup(IdentityType identityType, Group group);
>
>
> +1 for the above (with the type idea for #4).
>
> Roles
> ----------
>
> Role createRole(String name);
>
> void removeRole(Role role);
>
> void removeRole(String name);
>
> Role getRole(String name);
>
> boolean hasRole(Role role, IdentityType identityType,
> Group group);
>
> void grantRole(Role role, IdentityType identityType,
> Group group);
>
> void revokeRole(Role role, IdentityType identityType,
> Group group);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. I would remove the removeRole(String) method as the same
> thing can be
> achieved with removeRole(getRole(String)).
>
>
> +1
>
> 2. I would swap the order of the Role and IdentityType
> parameters within
> the hasRole(), grantRole() and revokeRole() methods. As the
> IdentityType is the primary artifact in these operations it
> makes sense
> to have it listed first.
>
>
> +1
>
> 3. We don't have any explicit support for application roles,
> which are
> roles where there is no Group component (for example, an
> application-wide "admin" role). We could support this by
> just allowing
> hasRole(), grantRole() etc to accept null values for the Group
> parameter, however I feel it would be more semantically
> correct to
> provide a distinct set of methods for the purpose of supporting
> application roles, as follows:
>
> boolean hasApplicationRole(IdentityType identityType,
> Role role);
>
> void grantApplicationRole(IdentityType identityType,
> Role role);
>
> void revokeApplicationRole(IdentityType identityType,
> Role role);
>
>
> +1
>
> Query API
> --------------
>
> <T extends IdentityType> IdentityQuery<T> createQuery();
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. After our recent rewrite of the Query API I'm satisfied
> with what we
> have now.
>
> Credential management
> -------------------------------
>
> boolean validateCredential(User user, Credential
> credential);
>
> void updateCredential(User user, Credential credential);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. I'm satisfied with what we currently have, however we
> still need to
> review the mechanism that we provide for encoding passwords.
> I'm not
> sure that it will have any effect on these methods though
> (I'm toying
> with the idea of integrating the password encoding
> functionality via the
> IdentityStoreInvocationContext).
>
> Identity expiry
> ------------------
>
> void setEnabled(IdentityType identityType, boolean enabled);
>
> void setExpirationDate(IdentityType identityType, Date
> expirationDate);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. I think these methods are fine the way they are. One
> discrepancy
> that I've identified is that a User can be created already being
> disabled or having an expiry date, while for a Role or Group the
> equivalent status must be set via these methods after
> creation. I'm not
> sure this is a big deal though.
>
>
> All good.
>
> Attributes
> -------------
>
> void setAttribute(IdentityType identityType, String
> attributeName,
> String attributeValue);
>
> String getAttribute(IdentityType identityType, String
> attributeName);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. This area poses a slight dilemma. Currently the API only
> supports
> simple String-based attribute values, however I'm pretty sure
> that
> people are going to want to store all sorts of things,
> ranging from
> boolean and Date values through to large byte arrays that
> store a User's
> photograph or other data. If everyone is in agreement that
> we need to
> support more than just String values, then the first thing we
> probably
> need to do is modify these methods to work with a
> Serializable instead.
>
> 2. If we all agree on point 1), the next thing we need to
> decide is
> whether we want the capability to make some attribute values
> "lazy
> loaded". If we want to do a quick lookup of a User object
> for the
> express purpose of assigning a Role or Group membership (or
> any other
> type of simple operation) then we probably don't want the
> performance
> hit of having to load bulky attribute data.
>
> 3. With the above two points in mind, I'm going to hold off
> on surmising
> any further on attributes until some of you guys weigh in
> with your
> opinions. I do have some rough ideas, however I'll wait
> until we have a
> consensus of exactly what we want to achieve here before we
> proceed further.
>
>
> Serializable works for me. Do we do have a generic Attribute<?
> extends Serializable> or just forgo the generics?
>
> Utility methods
> --------------------
>
> IdentityType lookupIdentityByKey(String key);
>
> My thoughts:
>
> 1. This method is required by other features, such as the
> Permissions
> API. I'm fine with what we have here.
>
> In summary
> ----------------
>
> I apologise for yet another epic e-mail to the list, however
> this is
> everyone's chance to review the API for themselves and decide
> whether or
> not it will be suitable for addressing all of your
> requirements. I'd
> like to get this API stable by next week so please don't be
> shy about
> speaking up. I'm especially looking forward to hearing your
> opinions
> about how we handle attributes (there may even be some
> relevant JSR-351
> stuff that we should be looking at here).
>
> Thanks,
> Shane
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